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Working for farm relief

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  • 25-05-2022 3:55pm
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    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭


    Anyone on here working with the farm relief? A friend of mine contacted them recently about a job.



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    ruwithme
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    €11 a hour gross pay to the worker in early 2021 it was. Farmer claimed he was paying them round €16 a hour for the same worker.

    Be making good money them frs on the backs of the workers & farmer's.

    Lads in suits of clothes again I suppose



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    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Well €2 of that difference would be gone on employer's prsi and then VAT on the bill?

    (8.8% and 13%)

    Leaving FRS with €3 an hour. Then FRS have to insure against any midtakes by the employee. Surely another €1.


    Leaving €2 less overheads. Office, secretary, accountant, wage processing, advertising, any other staff.


    Doubt they're creaming it.



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    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    And to the OP. Yes I worked for FRS but back in the late 90s and early 2000s.


    We were getting €10 a hour back then as students. The €11 an hour above is hardly great pay.


    It can be hit and miss. I remember one summer getting nothing off them for 4 or 5 weeks of the summer just before the harvest.



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    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119114395#Comment_119114395

    I think you mean 'mistakes' not 'midtakes',,,,

    You owe me €1 😉



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    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119114431#Comment_119114431

    A mistaken midtake



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    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119114395#Comment_119114395

    Prsi 11.05%, holiday and bank holiday pay 12.9%



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    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Op, your friend would be better off watching donedeal or indeed posting a ad on it themselves offering their labour etc. Lots of work on farms at the moment advertised there.

    Paid monthly to the worker with frs.



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    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    ....



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    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    €11 an hour? That's poor. Can't have been much good in fairness. What are tesco or aldi paying?



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    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,247 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Ad on done deal, worked great



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    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119114588#Comment_119114588

    Around the same.



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    kerryjack
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    Worked for them 30 years ago and this will tell you how things have changed. Worked for a lad with 120 Dairy cows back than and he had a full time farm manager and he used all so get in casual farm relief. He was what we used to call a gentleman farmer and you bring your own samages because you wouldn't get inside the door. Probably need 500 cows today to be able to pay a farm manager. On the 11 euro an hour you are not paying any tax on it and you are learning a bit and hop on as many machines as you can and get some free training and your getting a free farmers tan out of it so not bad for a young buck starting out.



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    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119124943#Comment_119124943

    But what about an older buck?



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    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    For a available worker or anyone looking to earn extra income, stay away from frs, paid monthly & low pay.

    No doubt your man Dan is experienced & that won't be recognised with frs.

    Lots of ads online in many counties looking for help presently.agree good terms & conditions from the get go, so your man knows where he stands.

    Frs is more positives for the farmer looking for help than from a working man's position.



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    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119128309#Comment_119128309

    Give us the goary details of your experience. Sounds like it wasn't pleasant for you. Did you get paid? My understanding is that frs always pay on time even if they have to wait for payment themselves.



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    wrangler
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137368#Comment_119137368

    You'd think that farm workers wouldn't need FRS to get them jobs, Farm workers are in the demand now.

    Hard to see where you'd get problems deaing with FRS if they pay on time, what else is there to it



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    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137419#Comment_119137419

    Id say demand could be quieter this time of year. It's a pity our milk supply is so seasonal, all the work compacted into a few weeks.

    Probably still plenty poor/bad payers out there too. Working for a farmer doesn't really offer any route for progression in most cases either.



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    cute geoge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137419#Comment_119137419

    Its mostly the same farmers the whole time looking for help because they will kill any one that works for them with work .I heard a lad that used to a bit of relief milking for local big herd until they put up a bigger rotary .He just said the pace was even too hectic ever before the bigger parlour and then you could not even get a minute for a pis with the bigger parlour



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    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137606#Comment_119137606

    Oh yeah, young lads are foolish if they opt for farming with the opportunities out there.

    I'm sure the poor employers are well flagged on the grapevine/whatsapp and so they should be.

    some horrific poor stories coming from student placements these days



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    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119137656#Comment_119137656

    The greencert placements are scandalous, nearest thing to slave labour, 120ish per week is it?

    I presume if you worked for frs and got on well, you may get an opportunity to up skill some what. Theres good money to be got out of farming without actual farming, look at Cammy (thesheepgame), between scanning and shearing I'd say he brings in a tidy sum. Shearing is hard going, scanning is too but maybe not as bad.



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    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119138371#Comment_119138371

    Scanning and shearing is great for a young fellow, you'd get well set up for €40k and have work across the year........even sheaering now is year round if you wanted it part time from the farm.

    Both scanners and shearers are getting scarce now



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    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119138436#Comment_119138436

    I suppose scanning would take a long time to get good at. Surely a case of practise practise practise and could be hard to get a farmer to let a novice at it without getting them checked by a more experienced scanner. Over the last few years a good few vets have got into scanning, cow scanning anyway, not sure are there many new lads at sheep scanning.



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