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Dublin Airport Mayhem

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭nihicib2


    yeah worth looking into that, never heard of it before, thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Quite a few on Twitter today saying it has been quicker than the regular queue though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Ryanair have said over 1,500 of their passengers alone missed flights, so that DAA estimate is wildly under.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭touts


    Some DAA lad called Graham on Today with Claire Byrne blaming staff not turning up and passengers turning up too early.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,729 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    You think some of the management and directors would get off their holes.and role their sleeves up and get up there to help out! Not a chance.

    Btw if I was the Greencore board I would put the appointment of Dalton Phillips on hold as clearly isn't fit to be a CEO of anything!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭Allinall


    How do you know they weren't helping yesterday?

    The spokesman on the radio this morning said he was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Unshelved


    Kevin Cullinane is the spokesman/Head of Communications and was indeed pictured at the airport yesterday. However he is NOT on the Board - https://www.daa.ie/our-company/our-team/ - and the Board have been very conspicuous by their lack of visibility during this debacle, preferring instead to push Cullinane front and centre. I don't see any of them taking any personal responsibility at all? I wonder how much they are paid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Not from DAA but if you're flying Ryanair you can add it there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭Allinall


    The board of directors generally do not, nor should they get involved in operational issues.

    If they were pictured at the airport with their sleeves metaphorically rolled up, they would be castigated for looking for photo opportunities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭gaillimh


    Ah right thanks. Flying with Tap Air. So hard to know when to rock up to the airport



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Economics101


    What we need to focus on is the decision by the DAA to offer 1000 redundancies early in the pandemic. This makes no sense unless the collapse in air travel was expected to be long-term. Any sensible person could see that this was nonsense. A furlough scheme could have retained liks with experienced staff instead of letting them go totally.

    Will any politician or journalist hold DAA to account on this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭KLF


    Another hilarious thing is that DAA international won the contract to run the airport in Jeddah, Saudia Arabia just back in March. It’s terminal is 8 times larger than T1 Dublin. It’s also the gateway to Mecca for the yearly Hajj.


    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/daa-wins-major-contract-to-operate-airport-in-jeddah-41492330.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    DAA's "wait and see" approach is working well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 newtodublin1


    Does anyone know what kind of wait I will be facing for the Lufthansa check in desk next Saturday morning? Once I reach the top of this queue and drop my bag do I have to exit the airport again and walk to the back of the security queue? Is it clear what each queue is for? I will be arriving at the Dublin Bus stop for terminal 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    What do people expect?

    The DAA used the pandemic as a excuse to make a heap of staff redundant, now they are trying to get new staff on crap rates of Pay and hours and surprise surprise they cant get them. Maybe they can poach some of Keelings workers ( slaves) flying in from Bulgaria??/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,493 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Nobody can tell you with any degree of certainty what awaits passengers at either terminal next week. One thing is for sure; it will be busier that the weekend that has just passed. I would say another sh1tshow is imminent and passengers being urged by DAA not to travel 5-6hrs will not heed the advice given. There is no way on earth a few no-shows on Sunday were responsible for the chaos that we all witnessed yesterday.

    They simply do not have the staff to deal with the volume of footfall that we have seen; volume that will increase significantly in the weeks ahead. As has been repeated many times, they well and truly dropped the ball here and true to form, it's all reactive, never proactive from this shower. The DAA, despite the BS this morning on the radio saying that passenger numbers were 'Commercially sensitive and unshared information', they know damn well the numbers that are to be expected on any given day. It's a joke....and one I fear that is likely to continue. And that knob-end of a CEO that's destined for Greencore........ Jesus wept.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,200 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    When there is no accountability at director level for state owned entity f*ck ups then you can be sure that the DAA as a semi-state is certainly not going to see any repercussions. Quite the opposite, everyone at director level will be rewarded at the end of the year for a job well done. The strategy is always the same with these crowds, just weather the storm everything will be grand. Look at Peter Reid at the HSE, he's overseen controversy after controversy and has never been held accountable in any meaningful way. David McRedmond at An Post is another one, the handling of non-eu packages has been a disgrace since last Summer and is still going on, he's probably delighted the focus has shifted away from him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Even if the army can't do the security job in the airport, surely they can help with the vetting process and getting stuff through quicker there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Casati


    I don’t believe Dublin airport is allowing flight transfers in this manner - at least it wasn’t for me flying from Kerry and then onwards. Each time they forced me to exit and join the massive queue again. Haven’t done this in over 6 weeks so maybe it changed but I doubt it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭joe40


    How about as an emergency procedure ban all liquids/gels going through security. It might speed things up marginally.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    The DAA is grossly incompetent. Aside from the screening and security issue there's also a lot of issues behind the doors too:


    -- Staff screening is restricted now to a single area in T1. Used to be 2, one in arrivals other in departure, but it's just departures now... and staff are frequently late because everyone's crammed into that one area with often just 2 DAA workers screening it when it should be three (when a random check pings people are held up). Doesn't help that Flight crew (Emirates/Etihad worst culprits) that frequently act like it's their first time going through having to take off numerous articles with the metal detector constantly going off on them... 🙄


    -- Construction work. This is a major one to those unawares; The main loading baggage hall belt (behind Belts 1-6) has been disassembled to set up a new system connecting between T1 and T2 so bags can go between without the need to having people drive them over between terminals. This has been going on for 2 years now... the issue is that literally all flights, besides Ryanair, in T1 are crammed down into a basement area (where belts 6-10 for arrivals are above) to be loaded. Flights such as KLM, Lufthansa, Air France, Qatar, Etihad, Turkish Airlines, some British Airways, Baltic Air, Icelandair, etc. to name but a few... ALL these bags are being funneled onto a SINGLE belt. Space is an issue too making for an unpleasant experience to work in. So it's no shocker that the belt is frequently jamming, tons of bags not coming down at all ending up in a chutes area where Ryanair is [OCS has to physically transport all these bags down to the basement area], resulting in a lot of bags missing their flights. I don't envy Baggage Tracing having to reflight and trace all those bags, there's piles of them all over the place. WHY the DAA hasn't sent some of these Airlines to T2 to alleviate some of the stress for both passengers and staff is beyond me... T2 is only used by Aerlingus and the few American flights, and Emirates, plenty of space there.


    -- Staff issue for both Ramp and Baggage Hall. Aerlingus have went all out hiring people, and they've poached a LOT of agents from both Sky Handling and Swissport, as such both Sky Handling and Swissport are struggling... Swissport more so. Frequently there's no one loading bags, and the above aforementioned issue, the belts are overflowing with bags creating jams and backlogs resulting in bags missing their flights.


    So yeah... got through Check-in, security and finally at your Gate? Just hope your bags make it! 😛


    Honestly I'd just fly with Aerlingus with the current state of the Airport, they're well staffed to make things go smoothly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Helpneeded86


    Flying with Swiss out of Terminal 1 in the morning. I am flying business so hoping no queue for the bag and fast track along with Tuesday been a little calmer means I have no major issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    120 Passengers missed their flight yesterday for Zurich, but Tuesday's typically the 'quietest' day of the week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭murtyd17


    Flying to Spain on Friday with 2 young kids

    - Anyone know what's the earliest than Ryanair will allow bags to be checked in?

    - is there any point in getting fast track. Hearing conflicting views if it's worthwhile or not!

    - if I go to checknin bags and others join security queue, has it been possible to skip up queue.to rest of family

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭murtyd17


    Flying to Spain on Friday with 2 young kids

    - Anyone know what's the earliest than Ryanair will allow bags to be checked in?

    - is there any point in getting fast track. Hearing conflicting views if it's worthwhile or not!

    - if I go to checknin bags and others join security queue, has it been possible to skip up queue.to rest of family

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    Just arrived back through the airport there and took 10 minutes from getting off the plane to getting through passport control (I was power walking as needed to catch a bus).

    I guess if you can at all, best to try and use Dublin airport from late morning to early evening to avoid the worst waves of overcrowding.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Members of a board generally aren't employees of a company. They wouldn't be allowed show up and just roll-up their sleeves, they'd be instructed to leave (they won't have access cards, credentials etc).



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Saanvi Hot Geometry


    The army are used to training & learning, they had a good knowledge of threats & weapons, and are adept at handling situations concerning people through peacekeeping duties etc. they would be quicker to train than complete novices with zero experience. Army people are trained to be both disciplined and flexible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,354 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    The problem with this is people will still present at security holding a bottle of liquid asking is this a liquid or not? One can never, ever rely on people having common sense. The solution lies elsewhere, but I don't know where that is unfortunately. Probably involving more staff though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I agree with that last post - DAA should be making public announcements telling Joe Moron and his family to have your sh1t ready when you get to security scanning. Get ready in the queue. Put your electronics in the tray with your liquids in a clear bag. Put your watch, belt, coins, wallet and keys in your carry on.

    Joe also needs to learn that, when you get on the plane, put your bag in the overhead bin and sit the fook down.

    It is no rocket science.

    Every little helps.



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