Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I think the event you're referring to was called World War II. The Germans were trying "to sort out Russia"? Seems they got their compass settings wrong because they went west instead of east and overran western Europe. They then set up an odious system that practised genocide on an industrial scale.

When they turned eastwards it was to aquire land.

The "rump state", the FDR, was democratic and thrived.

The Poles know full well what Putin is capable of..and what might happen if Ukraine is defeated. There's only one solution to this problem, and that's Europe unites fully and destroys Putin completely, and in such a way that there can be no denial of the fact.. this wheeling and dealing by Germany and France has to stop... Its needlessly prolonging the agony.

The reason Russia declared war on Ukraine has nothing to do with resources or oil. This is a genocide on Ukrainian people. Russia wants Ukrainian people wiped from the face of the earth. And for people to think this has to do with anything else need there head examined.

Russia must be unaware that it has hundreds of thousands of square miles of virgin territory in its east. Basically, if Russia cannot stride the world like a giant using the vast territory it already possesses, adding Ukraine to its inventory is unlikely to help.

Child rape and so on should never have a price put on it, full stop, however is it worth a RuSSian clown launching a nuclear bomb at any EU city?

Would you be OK with Belfast, Dublin, Galway or Limerick taking a hit for the Ukrainian kids and the rest of us living with the consequnces? Like fcuk would you ... your tune would also change if a few soldiers walked into your house and gave you a gun and said the plane is leaving in 2 hours off you go to fight, find the rapists and walk them into the courts or offer some self justice.

As I said in my previous post, Ireland and its citizens should be very quiet in all of this as we have a few boy scouts with guns which are called an army. Not any fault of its members etc., created by politicians who neglected military spending for over 20-30 plus years. We dont have an air nor a marine corps with the ability to defend our own airspace nor waters so how to bloody hell should we get involved in the Ukraine or tell Nato members how to run their affairs. Simple fact is, before any Irish citizen or politician starts spouting about what other countries do or do not do or what they should be doing ... they should look at the Irish position and our own back yard.

Because with Russia reduced to a state of powerlessness, that leaves the US a clear field if China and Taiwan kicks off. One down, nr 2 to go. And for sure, the US Military Complex will be more than 100% ( if that's possible?? ) behind him. Now its the perfect scenario for Biden no matter which way you look at it.......hammering the daylights out of Putins army, without any worrying about US fatalities.

Why should we be quiet in all this we cant help military but we are giving aid, By sitting on the fence as you say, we are saying that it is alright to rape women, childern,babies. Anybody how knows anything about this war knows their is zero chance of a nuclear attack on Ireland.

The idea that we should stay quiet while countless thousands are subjected to horrific treatment is utterly indefensible. Us, a nation with no capacity to defend ourselves, would be utterly reliant on the generosity of others if we ourselves were to come under attack. But even outside of that fact, who are we as a nation, as a people if we say nothing against these horrors just for fear of upsetting some dictator.

So what is the strategy

All those countries have every justification for fearing what the Russian dictatorship might do next in terms of invading another country although IMHO I think Moldova is a more likely next target.

The alternative is to let Ukraine fall and embolden Putin. Then he says 'Give me Poland or I'll nuke Warsaw' So we give him Poland to keep the peace. 'Give me Germany or I'll nuke Berlin'.

No. This must not happen.

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Well one thing you omit is that the US aid is mostly military aid isn't it, rather than separate somehow (otoh 80 or 90 % is a figure I recall without googling)? Lend lease is all about weapons for Ukraine too.

The EU countries, and the UK do not, I expect have an entire Ukrainian army's worth (say $40bn?) of spare NATO weapons sitting there to supply Ukraine yesterday (or as fast as possible). The US (likely) does.

They could pay that to arms manufacturers I suppose and get the weapons in...I dunno (really - I can't say).

Or they could give it to the US perhaps in exchange (as per earlier post they might have had to do just that if they wanted to see Ukraine backed up more strongly and good old Donnie Trump was still in the hot seat over there!).

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, May 28 | Institute for the Study of War (understandingwar.org)