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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭Field east


    I find the overall French reaction to the war unbelievable - unless there is something that I do not know. We now have Macron getting involved with Putin to try. And get grain out of Ukraine safely to feed the world. A very opportunistic man. I suppose we will have to stomach. His involvement because it might help to alleviate world famine from occuring



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭Field east


    Putin has ALWAYS weaponised. Sports. He uses it to show - when possible- the world how superior Russians are to those from other countries and especially America. Sports should be treated as collateral damage. I feel for those Russian sports people who want to stay abreast of all of this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Germany clearly want a convincing Russian victory. A Ukraine in EU dilutes their power, and an alliance with Poland, the Baltic's, Czechoslovaks, Romania forms a powershift due to the numbers.

    Germany will have to find another way to rejig the EU to ensure they have the most power. It will be full of the usual threats of joblessness and economic ruin. I cannot believe so many people fell for this act the Germans suddenly have humility after WW2 and have totally abandoned their national psyche, just because they lost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    When Spassky lost the chess match against Fisher in Reykjavik they took his car away from him.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    Mariupol

    MariupolBodies.jpg

    Scholz

    Scholz.jpg


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,905 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Eh maybe because everything he had is gone, his city and his whole life is ruined and his Country is in bits. Maybe he has lost family and friends too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    and all because one old man who sits in comfort longs for an idea from the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,905 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes it is very sad for Ukraine and very stupid by Putin. He is pure evil. All the blood of all the dead soldiers and civilians in this war are on Putins hands.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭hayse


    You get the feeling Ukraine will loose this war yet. Germany is doing its best to ensure it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    It does seem a few of the Euro countries have always hoped that Ukraine would just cut a deal with Putin so that things would settle back down those countries have no regard for Ukraine and no problem with Putin grabbing back land in that region . It looks likely Putin will get his way in time he seems to have the numbers and will keep going unless Ukraine can drive them back and out but some don't want to see Putin humiliated they are afraid of what will happen to them .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so



    That's a pretty spectacular 1938 reading of Germany. It is really not what they are doing although your warm anti-EU feelings are noted. Sure it may be slow versus the old warrior Biden or the self-serving toe rag Bojo saving his own career but it is still happening. I really don't get this wild rage against one country just because they are not doing what people demand of them or that they are not ranting like some other countries. It's not as if they started this mess. The EU is complex, has 27 members, and rarely comes up with instant decisions. Even if they were doing whatever they are not, this thing would still be going in August.

    Nearly 100 days into this, much as Ukraine continues to need military support and Zelenskiy reminds people of it daily, he has an agenda and his Koolaid needs the same caution as Putin's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,759 ✭✭✭weisses


    What is Ireland doing other then cowardly hiding behind the " We are neutral" excuse?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭hayse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Don't you have a list? It seems the fashion of posters who know what to do to have a list of such things!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    The Germans are right to stay out of it, the last time they tried to sort out Russia they got the sh1t bombed out of them by the western powers.

    Endured a genocide between 1945-1947 and were left with only a rump state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    True -zelensky and Ukraine have an agenda- of course - they're not secretive about it - they need to persuade - kajole - pressurize a lot of support ,( financial ,weapons and political ) from the west - and this is an long term project - but the public and news cycles arent really long term ...

    He has a limited time to influence the German public -to pressurize sholtz into quickly divesting from Russian gas .before something pushes Ukraine from the headlines .

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I think there's a danger in the Day X of the war narrative in that it gives a linear sense and makes us think one way or another. They are proposing potential solutions, not because they want to do Putin any favours but because their natural inclination is that they want the war to stop. Even if he stopped tomorrow the sanctions would still be in place so that's not much of a win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The West are to blame for food shortages says Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova.

    "The main catalyst for the existing negative trends was the anti-Russian sanctions of the West, which led to a rupture of ties in the field of global logistics and transport infrastructure," she said.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Germany has already embarked on a plan to move way from Russian gas and oil but that timetable is far longer than regular broadsides from Zelenskiy. IMO they will do it but not until everything is fully in place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    And till then one of ukraines biggest weaknesses is the money that the eu pays out for Russian energy .. it's not a simple task for Germany ( and others ) , not only is it going to be expensive ,but it's reputational - Germany in particular has been played like a fiddle ... they were courted, kajoled ,bought and pressurized by Russia .. and then doubled down on their energy imports from Russia ... It would be so much simpler if it all just "went away " and Ukraine lost ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Posts: 577 ✭✭✭ Malaysia Lively Certificate


    Germany has been minimising what arms shipments it’s been sending to Ukraine

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1530652831539249153



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Every Irish person is a drunken slob according to captain cliche anyway.



  • Posts: 577 ✭✭✭ Malaysia Lively Certificate


    jez man you could give a warning before posting those graphic images



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sooo many excuses, soo much coping

    Everything the EU congratulated itself on standing for turned out to be conspiciously absent once France and Germany decide it was not in their interests. Meanwhile the Baddie Brexiteers didnt hesitate to act and you hate them for it 😂

    A prime example why a Europe of nations rather than a Europe of states is better for our Security.



  • Posts: 577 ✭✭✭ Malaysia Lively Certificate


    The feeling I get is that Germany and France dont want anything to do with this situation, and are only pandering to their electorate to be acting like they are doing something. The GDP for EU is something like 18 trillion, where as Ukraine GDP maybe about now is 100 billion. EU wants back its cheap energy supplies and for Ukraine/Russia to make a peace agreement, which unfortunately will involve Ukraine giving up territory. Since Ukraine is dependent on EU funds / arms, they will reach a point where they will have to make concessions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Whatever will happen with EU involvement, and maybe it will take Russian victory, and then they start on Poland and the Baltic states to make Germany and France wake up to the threat that Putin poses to Europe. But Biden is under no suck illusions......he see's Putin for what he is, and wants him out of of the way so he can give China his full attention if they invade Taiwan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    i made several points a few weeks ago about foreign policy, course the band wagon knee jerk crew where up in arms.

    In the international foreign policy game, which is about power not morales. It’s in the wests/NATO/US interest to have a weakened Russia. The situation now looks like russia will eventuality take The Donbas. It’s one thing taking it it’s another to hold it, the Kremlin will have to pour in troops and equipment and that exactly what the west want, to bleed russia dry unfortunately for Ukraine it propably means continued war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Russia will not invade Poland or Baltics or any other NATO country. Invading them equals invading USA, they are not that stupid or crazy. They are like school bullies, they pick some weak nerd, but stay away from someone who has a strong big brother. Same with Russia in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova. They might invade Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, but not a NATO country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    It is true, what Russia Putinbots fear most is the TRUTH. So let's all make sure the Kremlin will never prevail in suppressing or hiding the truth worldwide. For Russia, all we can do is keep highlighting the crap the Kremlin put out. RT news will be found out by everyday Russians. People over there are already starting to question what's going on. The world is against them and they know it... why the world is against them they will eventually find out. Ukraine will win Russia will lose this is a guarantee no matter how France and Germany drag their feet on the war.

    Dan.



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