Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

It's not hard explain, you read the headline and not the article and then you rushed to the internet with misplaced outrage with the usual 'Bloody Refugees FFS shtick'.

The substance of the articles has nothing to do with current under capacity in schools nationally, it relates to a specific area in Dublin which wants to insure prudent future planning.

Knowing how long it takes to get anything done in Ukraine, trying to tap into the records held by the State??

From the above:

1. Where it is strictly necessary to do so in order to allow us to comply with our obligations and to process your application your information may be transferred outside the European Economic Area or to an international organisation in order to enable us to confirm identification, immigration history, criminal history, and the details and/or documentation submitted in support of the application. This can include, but is not limited to, banks, employers, and hotels. We assess the circumstances surrounding the disclosure and we will only divulge, to another party, enough information to verify your identity to them for the purpose of verifying information and/or documentation provided in support of your application.

The "strictly necessary" bit is most likely never happens unless they have serious suspicions about person's identity.

Otherwise, if they do all these checks, why request all documents submitted being originals? Surely a copy will do - what's the difference what to run a check on? But no - one must bring all original docs, translated and certified plus a copy of each document.

They haven't blocked anything and it's absolutely nothing to do with refugees.

But it didn't stop you trying to conflate the two.

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I didn't say it had anything to do with refugees

🤣 You did yeah, but why bring up this future planning issue in a thread about Ukrainian refugees?

it is happening due to a lack of capacity in schools in the areas

Well no, the objection is down to the lack of schools in the area for the future because of development now and in the future, this isn't very hard understand, if you build 1000s of dwellings in one specific area that specific area will need extra services now and in the future.

but according to some they can pull out tens of thousands of extra school places for children who didn't live here 3 months ago

The "some" being the schools, the unions and the department of education. Now if you have evidence that refutes that I'll gladly take a look.

Not reading an article about future development in one part of Dublin is not evidence and certainly has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

but we don't have places in schools for children languishing on lists to get into schools

In specific areas there is pressures, but it's a legacy issue, bad or non existent planning. It's the reason the Forward Planning Section was set up, to try and minimise these issues in the future.

CSO data published today on UKR arrivals:

Data on relationships between arrivals:

I estimate roughly 2,500+ men arrived between ages 20-50.

You claimed outrage ,then claimed the article wasn't read but typically from both your claims are wrong ,oh but you didn't read it's about future proofing ,but no where in the articles does it say it's about future proofing.

The articles on the story was about the department of education blocking housing developments due to a lack of capacity in schools in areas where developments are taking place ,the department of education will be blocking or trying to block further developments in the future .

You did yeah, I think we will leave it there you are about hit Oz.

Those stats not being revealed by the government here for some reason, is it so the Russians won't be able to estimate how many Ukranian men are still left in Ukraine to fight? Perhaps it could change the direction of the war if the Russians knew this information.

Again I never referenced any article only you did ,I replied to your claim of what article you claimed to have read ,

Whats does the stats tell us? Its not just women and children.

Its like a slow motion car crash, we know this country is going to be overwhelmed and there's nothing we can do.

Heard a statistic on the radio this morning.. 1 in 7 of the population of north Clare are now Ukrainian. For a little country like ourselves, this is a staggering amount. I'm guessing this percentage is probably mirrored across most of the country.

All xenophobia aside, this has to be cause for concern. Not just for a nations identity but the vast majority are welfare recipients and does not bode well for the future.

'Little' Ukrania anyone?

Off by ~2000 units caller, or about 85% 😉