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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    They almost got caught this last mild winter due to low levels of gas storage. That will not happen next winter and the longer it goes on the less leverage they will have on energy along with far less money. Year end is where the EU is proposing starting to cut off the oil flow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Is this just a fanciful idea in your head or is there any actual real world evidence anywhere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    I didnt bring up TASS, someone else did and tried to use TASS's use of the word 'evacuate' as proof of ethnic cleansing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The standard line in any deal is Putin back to where he was pre February and the US wants Russia weakened so they'll be in no great rush on this at all. There will no lifting of sanctions this year, especially as the world adapts to them being in place and continues to find solutions to the issues they cause. As has been stated since Day 1 Russia is finished as a country until they stop outdoing North Korea in news and preferably when Putin and his clique have gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    If they have that much in reserve and equipped then why hold it back and let your troops on frontline be captured or killed along with equipment?

    Why let the Russians take Severodonetsk and other cities in the first place if they have the means to take it back from them?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz


    April 29th so lots of training since then.

    "US Army Europe and Africa Command will organize this training in coordination with the government of the Federal Republic of Germany, and we're grateful, of course, for Germany's continued support," he said.

    Germany was the only one of three training sites in Europe and outside Ukraine that he would disclose. The training, he added, includes the radar systems, artillery, and armored vehicles that are part of the latest rounds of US security assistance to Ukraine.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,653 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain



    The idea of allowing the Russians to gain ground rapidly (too quickly even) has been well discussed at this stage. Particularly with the earlier salients. Of course there's ground they don't want to give up at all but don't assume some is not tactical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    T-80BV tanks are being loaded into echelons in Naro-Fominsk in Moscow region

    -From Russia with love

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭jackboy


    If the US decide that they want the Russians thoroughly defeated then there likely will be some type of large summer offensive planned. The Russians have shown their hand. They are demoralised, lacking in equipment and leadership. I think some people here are seeing minor recent gains by Russia and forgetting how the war is truly going for them. Russia do not have a modern army and are in danger of complete collapse if enough pressure is put on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly


    Because Severodonetsk is a strategic river crossing point, which is on the Russian side of the river .... The bridges have been blown or are under Russian control, and the river isn't easily crossed with temporary measures....

    Holding it, means trying to do so while at a huge logistical handicap due to terrain, where the situation could turn into another Marioupul .... it makes sense to tactically retreat if they haven't the man power in place to take on hold the remaining bridge crossings, and hold off the Russian advance with artillery and stop them from crossing the river in large numbers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dunno, but it's well known Ukraine has around 200k professional troops + national guard (more likely to be close to 300k) and close to a million reservists. Not sure how much they want to sacrifice for this meat-grinder in LNR and DNR, and have read Ukrainians favor quality over quantity when it comes to troops, so I am not sure how keen they are to toss newly trained soldiers into that cauldron. Time is not really on either side, but Russia is on much more of a clock since it hasn't mobilised for war and many troops are on contract. Keep in mind Ukraine has to keep troops everywhere, on all the borders, key cities, airports, whereas Russia only has to focus on the frontlines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,653 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    This touches on one of my points in my long winded post above. While the Ukrainians like to sound bullish they are not announcing everything they are planning to the world. And why would they. Talk bullish but say nothing of what you're planning on doing.


    Op-sec also seems to be adhered to a little more vigilantly on their side than the Russians too IMO. It leaves me hopeful but only hopeful. I'm not convinced anything other than a long drawn out war is what we're facing into but still hopeful I'm wrong.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well soldiers surrender and civilians evacuate,somehow TASS made their own version of misinformation that they are best at making it sound like evacuate.

    And evacuate to Russian filtration camps and gulags in Siberia is a form of ethnic cleansing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Overall, things look far better for Ukraine's territorial integrity than they did at the start of the war, considering that the popular prediction at the time was that Kyiv would fall within a couple of weeks of Russia's full-on incursion. In the Donbas, specifically, though, yes, it's currently quite a grim picture, but it's a hell of a slow grind west for the Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭Polar101


    You can't "stop" Russia, if you have a frontline or a city they are attacking with a large force, they'll just level it with artillery and everything and everyone there. Eventually they'll take what's left of Sievierodonetsk, but at high cost and they'll be worn down. So far Ukraine hasn't really had the capability for counter-attacks (other than retaking vacated territory). If Russia advances too far (like they did before), then they can be picked off. But it would be pretty silly for Ukraine to start a big all-out counter-attack now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    I think the problem is the types of weapons they are getting. Stingers and javelins were well and good when the battle was more stretched and they needed mobility. And even the M777 can only do so much when they are out ranged by missiles and MLRS. The inability or lack of will to supply the weapons they need to turn this fight around is what is leading to the lists wet see now.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭shivaz




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,415 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It might be looking bad for Ukraine but I get the feeling that this is the last real offense Russia can muster. This is a land grab in Eastern Ukraine to try and get as much of the Donbas as possible and then use it for negotiations. Russia seems to be rapidly running out of proper equipment and moral is low. This attack whether successful will eventually stall.

    Ukraine won;t go on a massive all out offensive, they'll be more clever about it. Russians are dug in too deep at the moment and it would just be a meat grinder. They also know it's fruitless to lay siege to large cities. I think once russia starts to weaken we are going to see Ukrainian counter offensives that will aim to cut russian lines of communication and resupply.

    It's my uneducated take on the situation but I believe russia hasn't got much left outside of this current offensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭eire4


    I think your likely pretty accurate with both your points about this being the Russians last big offensive and also how the Ukrainians are likely to counter in the coming months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭briany


    A counterattack could be just what the Russians are expecting at some stage. They may be looking to take as much of the Donbas as possible as the Summer rolls on before switching to a defensive dug-in strategy to weather whatever Ukraine can throw back in return. There's also the continuing worry about what's happening to ordinary Ukrainians stuck behind Russian lines, essentially at the mercy of their new (hopefully temporary) overlords.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That's a great read. Interesting to hear his thoughts on Putin's motivation (mainly about self enrichment and boosting his ego and reputation) and Russia's future (not good in his opinion, largely an isolated backwater living in the past).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Any treaty would have to come with full access to the NATO defense pact for Ukraine. Only then will the rest of Ukraine be safe.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If we could connect a dynamo to the leaders and rebels of the 1956 Hungarian uprising we could power Europe based on the spinning going on in graves over Orban's pro Russia's stance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    He makes the valid point that Putin has already seized Crimea and parts of the Donbass and now three more regions. This rather invalidates the claims by some in the West that he just needs to be given more and more Ukrainian territory in order to get him to back off. Why would he stop with just eastern Ukraine? He clearly views the entire country (including Kyiv) as being 'Russian'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't know if Putin regards the entire of Ukraine as Russian, but he certainly does appear to want to make it Russia's, and I'm starting to think that Putin would be prepared to level every Ukrainian city (possibly excepting Kyiv), slaughter every Ukrainian and turn the whole country into one giant wheat field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    Yes. I found this part very interesting - most people just go with the flow-

    Actually, the most important thing for Putin is not the support, it's apathy -- the capacity to do nothing -- from the major part of the population…. So I would say that this 80 or 70 percent who support Putin, it is quite enough for them to say, "We have nothing against [you]," and so, therefore, this support will never turn into real, active support if something goes wrong. So if, for example, there is a coup, a civil war…I doubt anyone will stand behind Mr. Putin. So 80 percent of people saying that they support him, it doesn't mean they will take up arms and volunteer to fight in the Donbas.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That's very evident on all those Moscow vox pops we see on YouTube with people saying "I am neutral / apolitical" and "I have no opinion on the special operation". It seems Putin is relying on this type of apathy and views it as 'support'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,069 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Why would Russia have any interest in peace talks?


    Could they come up with even one good reason to be serious about peace talks.


    There isn't one. It would be of no utility to their aims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    Post edited by zv2 on

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doesnt sound like Zelensky is giving up yet ,or planning on giving anything to Russia




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