BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

How could we forget when he continued to double down on it.

As for Johnson it's hard to tell when the next big date of reckoning will be now that the May elections have passed. Maybe the photos will do the trick but I don't see enough Tories having the spine or morals

Ya getting past the local elections has him secure to the next election I think where the result will be that same or worse for the Tories if he is still in.

Yesterdays news is tomorrows fish and chips....

In the world of 24 hour, 7 day a week news...there is always some other story to be covered...the brits know they have a liar as a PM and dont seem to mind...

I said it months ago that he wouldnt go as a result of this.....

Well they do seem to mind going by polls and the local elections it's just they can do nothing about it for now

Because they don't need to. The british voting public are happy to be abused and lied to by this guy. Sad to see.

Like Thatcher in her time, war is giving him a veneer of gravitas he has absolutely no right to. Touches of Trump, Orban and Putin about that move. Sadly I agree with other posters that short of the Tories finally savaging him it's a very long haul for Britain with this Trump-lite oik at the helm. The next UK general election is scheduled to be held no later than Friday 24 January 2025.

Good point I heard on a podcast was that nobody within the party is likely to want the job at the moment anyway. Things are looking pretty dicey for the next few years, inflation, costs of living crisis, Brexit mess, and the election are within 2 years so anyone looking to take the job is probably going to feel they are on a hiding to nothing.

Better to sit tight, let Johnson loose the next election and then step in with no pressure. Even if Johnson manage to win the election (which given the FPTP system is a possibility) the likelihood is that he will look to bow out soon after.

It would be the death of the SNP in Scotland if they were seen to be propping up Johnson and the Tories.

The Tories have already won more elections than usual for British politics so I wouldn't be surprised to see people sit it out thinking they are due a loss.

Bit like how the likes of Trump and Bush waited till Obama was gone rather than run against him. Playing the numbers.

Then why did Trump spend the first Obama term criticising him constantly but then not bothering to run against him ? Because he knew he would lose.

Would the Conservatives offer the SNP a straight-up no-referendum offer of independence? For the time being the question I am pushing is how much they will sacrifice what few principles they have left to stay in power.

Last orders just called. Continue in the morning :)

Johnson himself did it when it was clear he didn't have support, TM won.

It isn't that they don't want to be the leader, it's about timing. Johnson is fatally wounded, they aren't going to take the risk of wielding the knife but losing the crown.

So wait. Things are likely to get worse, not better, so while of course their leading light might drop, it is more likely that Johnson was fail and they need to only wait.

Whether they are waiting for a better time or simply don't have the required support, the only reason Johnson is still in No10 is that no one has moved against him.

And that is mainly down to Johnson himself. His cabinet is packed with second rate politicians (being generous), so there really isn't any big beasts. Sunak was briefly seen as one, but even setting aside his recent drop, it is clear he hasn't a clue a is only in the job because he accepted conditions the previous CX wouldn't, namely he takes orders from PM advisors.