Better Call Saul Spoilers

SimonTemplar · 24-05-2022 02:23PM

I think Kim has been wearing those earrings since season 1

NickNickleby · 24-05-2022 02:25PM

I'm in shock. Daren't say more for now. Will watch it again tomorrow evening. Then later in the week I'll post something, but God knows what???

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2022 02:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119107204#Comment_119107204

If posters ignored my warning and watch any commentary that's their own lookout even at the start of the video the guy making it states there could be spoilers and not to watch it. It was still made up of fan theories The photo in question was from one of the Actors Instagram accounts I believe so not some sneaky unauthorized photograph taken during production.

As a side I think that I will watch that episode again as it deserves a second viewing it's that good

rubadub · 24-05-2022 02:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119107368#Comment_119107368

I expected just discussion on trailers. I did not mean it was some paparrazi photo, I said unintentional slipups, unless you really think Odenkirk had it intentionally planned to release that photo, I wonder if he got a slap on the wrist at all (non publicly of course as it would draw more attention).

looking at the video again, I do hear a warning which I did not pick up on when I viewed it first. If it was obvious they would be showing stuff which is possibly a major fcuk up I would not have watched it. "all the other stuff that is out there in the world we can use to think about what might happen in this episode" I did not twig what that fully meant.

24-05-2022 02:55PM

I thought the episode was a bit meh.... turned it off with a couple of minutes to go because I was bored.

(obviously I don't mean that)

Maxface · 24-05-2022 04:07PM

Just an incredible episode, best bit of tv I watched in a long time.

Penn · 24-05-2022 05:34PM

Fantastic. Simply fantastic.

Messi19 · 24-05-2022 06:00PM

Wow. Just wow. I hope the mid season break is short!

Agent Coulson · 24-05-2022 06:34PM

Due back on July 12th.

johnny_ultimate · 24-05-2022 06:38PM

I know the focus will be on the final seconds of the episode for good reason, but what a brilliant piece of storytelling it was before that. Seeing an episodes-long scheme pay off with the neatness and tidiness of a great heist movie was a delight. Some fantastic comedic energy in the filming sequences as well. What happened at the end played all the better because of it.

But yeah, an all-time great shocker of a mid-season finale. Just such a sad, brutal end for Howard - obviously he’s always been a bit of a dick (how much he deserved Jimmy’s wrath is one of the great sources of tensions throughout the seasons), but it’s a great indication of how the show plays with our sympathies that those final moments were so utterly tragic. The candle blowing was a real ‘oh ****’ moment of visual storytelling.

gormdubhgorm · 24-05-2022 06:41PM

Even though had a fair idea where it was headed. S6 e7 still caught me out. Dramatic stuff. Brilliant stuff. No screen time wasted.

My first thought was how will get rid of Howard’s body? Have to make it seem like a suicide etc. Plus have to hope no1 saw Howard go into the apartment.

It definitely was ‘something unforgivable’. It will be interesting to see Lalo’s plans for Kim/Jimmy

Edit - unforgivable - damn auto correct!

seraphimvc · 24-05-2022 07:14PM

just finished it.

Yes.

D:

fcking hell. What an episode.

So ya the dialogue, the camera angles, the plot when it dropped - ya, the most stylish episode in my memory of BB BCS.

But ya god damn cliff hangerrr with a massive bang - i knew it!!!!

pjcb · 24-05-2022 07:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108557#Comment_119108557

ffs

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2022 07:17PM

The damn cockroach that Lalo saw underground made him think of Jimmy.

The candle flickering was a nice touch first time it happens you think damn it's Lalo at the door and relax when you see it's Howard then the second time damn you know it's Lalo. Also I think Howard's brains land on the planning board to bring down Howard.

My theory is that this will force Jimmy more into the Saul Goodman Mob Solictor persona. Jimmy and Kim will use the settlement money to give a call to the Vacuum repair guy and Kim will disappear to a new life.

As I said I can't see Kim dying that would destroy Jimmy and he would not become the Saul we see in Breaking Bad.

There is a flashback scene in Season 3 I think with Jimmy punching through his office wall and he grabs bags of cash he tells Francene to be at a payphone at a certain time on his birthday and answer it she say something about if it doesn't ring at the exact time she is gone and he throws money at her and says it will I think this is to signal kim that he is going to get his vacuum repaired. I still hold out they will meet up in the Gene timeline and we have a happy ending. Although some would say they don't deserve it for what they did to Howard

seraphimvc · 24-05-2022 07:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119107926#Comment_119107926

This season at least, every episode is like a mini A class movie. Like jesus christ it is a damn world class enjoyment. BB is the best show on the planet and they seriously would like to top it - I mean, ya the team probably couldnt care less on that but the production is through the roof. And how many writers worked on the script???

Oh bring on the second part, and then I will feel very sad and then I hope the team will have a new project soon.

So ya at this stage, all these are just beautifully scripted, Nacho and Howard etc all other 'side stories' are all done and now we will have kim/jimmy line full on crossing with the cartel line - full on climatic episodes in July and then we finish...

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2022 07:45PM

Comments from Peter Gould and this episodes director Thomas Schnauz about what this does for the rest of the Series

Spon Farmer · 24-05-2022 07:57PM

Once Lalo saw the cockroach I knew where he was going and when Howard walked into the apartment I knew he was a dead man but it still came as a shock when it happened.

Howard didn’t deserve what Kim and Jimmy did to him. He had wanted to gone Jimmy a chance at the firm but was him into taking the blame for Chuck moves against him. Any time Howard was an ass it was in response to Jimmy’s shenanigans.

Everything he said to the pair in this episode was true.

EDIT: many of the pre-credit sequences are much longer and drawn out than they need to be. What was the point of over five minutes of Lalo walking around a sewer and having a shower? And then the “dramatic” reveal of the laundry? We already knew he knows about the secret underneath. It is no surprise he would be watching.

Messi19 · 24-05-2022 07:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108557#Comment_119108557

Might keep the prods quiet for 45 mins

gormdubhgorm · 24-05-2022 08:04PM

The bit I loved about Howard’s speech was it was exposition for the viewer on the ‘why’ - and finally answered Kim/Jimmy’s motivations. All Without seeming like exposition. Most programs would do that in clumsier manner.

I watched a couple of reviews to see if I missed anything. There was one which pointed out that Lalo woke before his timer went off. He was that tuned in. Plus Lalo ended up using his mistake ringing the nursing home to his advantage. Double bluffing Frings crew.

Finally it was pointed out did Howard’s caffeine drug stained hands contaminate the can of drinks or even get on Irene’s wheelchair?

Stuff to ponder until BCS marches back into gear on the 12th!

RickBlaine · 24-05-2022 08:06PM

The previous few episodes had so many little details to support the theory that Howard will have a medical emergency caused by the caffeine in the vet's drug. I wouldn't be surprised if that idea was bounced around the writers room at one point but they instead decided to have and Jimmy & Kim overlap with the cartel again, but the writers still added in a few hints about the caffeine as red herrings. There were just too many to be a coincidence.

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2022 08:08PM

Ha I was wondering what the teaser poster for last night's episode was about.. I'll never look at a flickering candle the same way again 😲

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Spon Farmer · 24-05-2022 08:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108901#Comment_119108901

I’m surprised that Mike’s guys are not aware of the first phone call.

Howard touched the cans before handling the photos. My guess is the chemical wore of the wheelchair before someone moved Irene. Can’t see any reason to revisit it unless someone else gets the effect and Ed Begley realise Howard was telling the truth.

Penn · 24-05-2022 08:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108874#Comment_119108874

It's about showing his dedication, his sheer force of will. He will spend days in a sewer just watching and waiting. Taking maybe 2 hours in the middle of the night to get supplies, shower and take a short sleep, and then back to the sewer. It's not so much the reveal of the laundry itself, but just showing Lalo is back, he's gotten all the info he needed from the Germans, and is inching closer to striking at Gus.

It also shows how similar he is to Gus (and Mike). He is incredibly patient, meticulous and cautious. He will plan, he will wait, he will sit in a sewer for 5 days, and a bit of static on a phone is enough to know he needs to switch his plans. We're not just seeing 5 minutes of Lalo taking a shower and sitting in a sewer. We're seeing a Salamanca unlike any other who is the perfect counter to Gus & Mike.

24-05-2022 08:20PM

Better Call Saul is without a doubt one of the most enjoyable television experiences I've had.

I get that people's tastes are unique to them, but if they've seen better call Saul and didn't enjoy it, then I can't in all honesty respect their opinion on anything!!!!!!

**** bravo to all involved.

Mid season break is already killing me, but also saving me because I don't want this to end.

Spon Farmer · 24-05-2022 08:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108955#Comment_119108955

Yes you are right. I guess I was just impatient because I already knew what he was doing and I wanted to get to the Sandpiper plot.

However I did also mean that of those sequences are very drawn out.

Anyway, I didn’t know there was going to be a break for a few weeks so glad I posted and saw that.

RickBlaine · 24-05-2022 08:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108960#Comment_119108960

I completely agree. Everything is top notch: the memorable characters, engaging acting, fantastic writing, and a real cinematic and often innovative visual style. And to top it off, it gives us a lot more time and back story for some of the best supporting characters from Breaking Bad.

Spon Farmer · 24-05-2022 08:27PM

Back in early July, yes?

el Fenomeno · 24-05-2022 08:27PM

I hate to be that guy, but binge watching box sets has ruined my ability to follow a show week to week.

Can someone remind me why Lalo is out to get Jimmy/Kim or why they're afraid of him?

I remember Jimmy got the money to bail him out, but lied about being ambushed in the desert. Lalo found the car and knows Jimmy lied....but I'm struggling to remember the rest or why Lalo is now after them.

Edit: also, how does Lalo know who Mike is? Did they meet? I can't recall.

Spon Farmer · 24-05-2022 08:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108999#Comment_119108999

That is exactly why I don’t binge. Everything gets jumbled up.

Lalo isn’t out to get them. Kim convinced him it was his own house that needed a cleaning out.

I was guessing that he came to the apartment to use them somehow to get to Fring.

Spon Farmer · 24-05-2022 08:36PM

I really like how seeing the cockroach out a plan to use the couple in his head.

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