Welfare recipients can earn €14k by renting a room

How will this work when a licencee in a rental can apply to be a tenant once there is a part 4 tenancy and the landlord can't reasonably refuse? I can see a lot more people becoming social welfare tenants from this, why pay €1k per month for a room when you can pay a set percentage of your income instead.

Part 4 doesn't apply to social housing, those in council houses will still have to inform the council of new people living in the property. Rent review will be done based on household income. Council and social welfare are separate , council rules will still apply. The same will apply for AHB.

Some social welfare recipients own thier own property, normal licencee arrangements will happen there.

There may be an issue with HAP and rent allowance social welfare tentants. So good point on that front , another headache for private landlords

Regarding pensioners those on the contributionary pension who owe thier own home or have a council/AHB house can do this already without penalty from the social welfare. It has an affect for those on the non contributionary pension in that they won't be means assessed.

I don't begrudge them at all. I know a few pensioners in large council houses who have actively been in contact with the council to downsize them to small houses but the council have no suitable stock. There's a huge amount of 3 and 4 bed council houses with one or two over 65's living there. IMHO we should be more concerned about that issue.

The only welfare recipients this actually really affects are those on "allowance" payments such as disability allowance but those numbers are small, the big one is Jobseekers allowance. All welfare recipients on "Benefit" payments are not means assessed.

The big issue here is for the private landlords of those "allowance" welfare recipients on HAP, RAS or rent allowance. While those tenants could previously sublet a room (if not forbidden by the rental agreement) they probably wouldn't do so because loosing money from thier welfare payment.

However rent allowance is basically a thing of the past replaced by HAP and RAS. These schemes are administered by the local council and not the DEASP (welfare) There may be a financial impact reducing the RAS or HAP payment because of the increase of household income. The same council rules on income should apply here regardless of the social welfare change of policy. So TBH the incentive may not be all that good as you may think.

TBH the announcement sounds like the government half arsed attempt of trying to tackle 2 issues , housing and inflation rises for social welfare low income earners. It gives the latter an option of getting more money. The reality is most already had that option and didn't choose to take it, they probably won't now so it's affect on housing is probably going to be next to zero. But the government can say , look at what we did to help.

It can when the room is sublet by an individual who rents the entire house from a landlord.

The sublet licencee can seek part4 from the original landlord.

However most landlords forbid subletting and this also doesn't apply to social housing.

I cannot see the harm in this, giving lower income people greater financial autonomy, and it will do a little bit to alleviate a crisis created by recent governments. This includes not building social housing to any useful degree, their banning of bedsits, tax privileges for foreign property investors whose developments end up grabbing available land for construction, a shoddy, incompetently operated (ie RTB whose website is shoddy even by the usual low standards of the Irish state) private rental régime, with legislation effectively blocking eviction of the most anti-social tenants possible (people other tenants and neighbours fear), and means a cut in income each year of c. over 5% with associated tax penalties. This results in more and more small time landlords (ofttimes Irish emigrants who have to work abroad or pensioners who invested the fruits of their hard work) just selling up. Finally this government has refugee commitments far beyond their very limited skill set or what this country can or should do.

I return to the first point on social housing. When this country was far poorer (see below), great numbers of high quality houses were built for tenement dwellers with huge families and new families needing homes. 5202 were built last year, which compares badly to c. 8400 on average between 1948 and 1962, exceeding private builds. People were net emigrating, the population was notably smaller. Nowadays the criteria for allocating local authority social housing is far from objective (foreign nationals with families and 'leave to remain' pushing aside Irish people is how it is working out and overwhelmingly the homeless are Irish). It means Irish citizens with families are not helped first of all. While it might sounds fascist to some, but poorer Irish people should be housed first. Someone who thinks otherwise is not reasonable.

Meh, just annoying. All the political class wants to do is spoof about woke nonsense. This measure is objectively good. Whatever helps.

Is this 14k Rent a Room scheme extension to means tested SW recipients still a Heather Humphries attention getter or has it been signed into existence?

You say it has been implemented? You wouldn't have an approx date that was done? Thanks

Thanks.

Yeah, I'm aware of all that stuff. An announcement was made of Cabinet approval and the Minister was due to sign regs. It seems that has not yet been done.

...again, just the build the fcuking properties, and stop fcuking around!

If a person is on Jobseekers Allowance & works part-time say 16 hours total over 2 days a week does this scheme still apply? Doesn't mention anywhere online