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Eurovision Song Contest 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭dogcat


    That's not what he said. He said that he hoped it could one day go to Mariupol - not that it would go to Mariupol next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Just to expand on what I posted previously, the BBC took over at least four times from what I can see. In all cases due to an inability by the host broadcaster to afford the contest, usually because of having hosted it in recent years.

    1960 in London, stood in for the Netherlands

    1963 at BBC Television Centre, stood in for France

    1972 in Edinburgh, stood in for Monaco due to insufficient funds and no suitable venue

    1974 in Brighton, stood in for Luxembourg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Brooke Scullion wrote the song and I presume had input into the delivery of the performance, and she is quite young and must be a good singer as she went far in the Voice UK recently.

    I meant not just a young person but a new vision, someone with an idea of something with quality that will stand out.

    This year’s entry was not imaginative and the tune was flat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭al87987


    Agreed, I think next year it would be better if those songs performed during the semi final on Tuesday and Thursday when the voting is happening. I know we get snippets but it's not really the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Romania are questioning why their jury vote was discarded and why the UK was given 12 points by some of the juries and why Ukraine was given 12 for the other dismissed juries.

    Romania also claims the Moldovan jury while deemed valid, had no votes for Romania which is not the normal voting pattern, while the Moldovan population gave Romania 12 points.


    Romania say their 12 points in the jury vote went to Moldova, but instead that was changed by the EBU to give Ukraine 12 points.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭LordBasil


    I think it is safe to say that ESC 2023 will not be hosted in Ukraine. It might be hosted/organised by the Ukrainian Broadcaster but not held in the country. My guess is in Poland, probably in Krakow as that is near the border with Ukraine so ESC will still head east. We'll just have to wait and see.....

    Regarding Ireland, our result was disappointing, I thought we had a real chance of making it. I think the poor camera work and the speaking part/rap in the song might have been a turn off for juries and viewers alike. Poor Brooke 😥

    If you look at entries that have done really well recently, most of them have a distinct flavour of the country they represented and were executed perfectly;

    SloMo was latin pop, Spaceman was British Stadium rock channelling Bowie, Freddie Mercury & Elton John, Voila was classic French Chanson, Maneskin were Italian Rock, Amor Pelor Dos was Portuguese Jazz and so on. That is the route we need to take to get strong results, send entries authentic to to country and recognisably Irish to an international audience but executed perfectly. The styles could be;

    Uplifting/heart breaking ,emotionally charged rock ballads - think U2, Hozier, The Cranberries, Sinead O'Connor style songs.

    Irish Traditional ballads or uptempo - channelling The Dubliners, The Pogues, Could be slow but also we could have an Irish equivalent to Moldova's successful entry this year.

    Celtic infused pop - we tried that in 2014 but the execution was a mess. Think a modern take on The Corrs

    Something new-age/Celtic - Reminiscent of Enya, Clannad, our last winner Eimear Quinn but modernised.

    The last time we successfully staged something that had an Irish flavour was in 2018 and it is no co-incidence that was our only qualification of the past 8 contests. RTE like boasting about our record 7 wins but that will likely be matched by Sweden in the next few years, also both France & the UK have 5 wins, both came second in the last 2 contests so could get a 6th win soon. The only way we can retain our title as is by winning an 8th victory. It will be interesting to see how RTE respond to another ESC disaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @LordBasil Always felt RoS was pandering (and those pandering fell for it slightly) and it wasn't a great song. IMO. And wasn't the 2015 song similar in tempo?

    And if that is the case then there is a case for something like Jedward also. Though perhaps that's due to their own hype.

    I'd go the Thin Lizzy route for Irish Rock.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Ukraine's culture minister said to Poland and Lithuania that their 12 points to the UK “does not reflect our real attitude towards you" as they deem Poland and Lithuania as “our closest friends in Europe”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭LordBasil


    2015, 'Playing with Numbers' by Molly Sterling was a lovely song with Celtic influences but the performance was very nervous and the lyrics too sophisticated/metaphorical, so it was not accessible to the public. It did well with the juries and was within the jury top 10 for qualification but did terribly in the televote so missed out on qualification.

    Jedward were a novelty with a unique image and zany personalities. They did really well in 2011 but even in a weak year were nowhere near winning. They can't be used as a template for modern Irish entries, the same way Verka Saduchka couldn't be used as a template for subsequent Ukrainian entries. It is OK for any country to send an eccentric entry once in a while, see Serbia this year, but that approach is not sustainable for long periods. We tried to replicate Jedward's catchy pop with Ryan Dolan, Sarah McTernan and Brooke without success.

    The Thin Lizzy style could be popular, see Italy's victory last year, but who could deliver a performance with Phil Lynott levels of sex appeal and charisma? It would have to be someone young and attractive otherwise they'd look like Bulgaria's entry from this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    This really makes Eurovision geopolitical, which is exactly what many are trying to say it is not. Same for the Romanian remarks.

    Do you have any more info?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭deise08


    Post edited by deise08 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77,586 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Downloaded the Moldova song.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    So what was the story about the jury results not being used for some countries? What is the accusation or implied accusation? Were the jury's scheming together to give X country certain scores?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,919 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I liked Brooke’s song. It is very catchy. May be it’s overly Americanised bubble gum pop that didn’t go down well with European audiences? We keep doing so shite- maybe it’s the music or Europeans don’t like us! Though the U.K. came second this year after brexit and all that poison



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,919 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    It’s a pity they don’t split the U.K. into it’s constitute countries and the north back with is- potentially 3 twelves for Ireland and vice Versa each year!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,919 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Bizarre France, Holland and Lux didn’t have the funds then- they’re europes richest nations!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Wales: England 12 points

    Scotland: Ireland 12 point

    Ireland: Scotland 12 points

    England: France 12 points

    Wales: :/


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Howok


    Iceland and Moldova have great songs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,943 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    They seem to have been repeat/recent winners who clearly didn't want to go again, or some other exceptional circumstances.

    Netherlands had won 2 of the first 4 and the concept of 'winner hosts' wasn't yet enshrined, so giving it to someone else possibly seemed 'the decent thing'.

    France had won for the 3rd time in 5 years.

    Luxembourg had won as hosts, so hosting two years running was probably regarded as an unfair stretch financially. (Looking at the below list no-one hosted 2 in a row until the 1990s)

    List of Eurovision Song Contest winners - Wikipedia



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,092 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If you liked this year's entry from Iceland, check out Netherlands entry The Common Linnets from a few years back...


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭pnott


    In the 2nd semi final 6 countries reported results from their juries that were ‘irregular’ according to the EBU and were replaced with results based on the pots each country is placed in to determine what semi final they participate in. As in the results that the EBU used for those countries was based on their historical voting patterns. The Danish broadcaster is accusing those 6 countries of exchanging votes to ensure qualification. In the final however the results of the Romanian, Azerbaijani and Georgian juries were altered by the EBU without explanation hence the reason why those three countries are seeking clarification. The EBU supervisor on the night announced the results of those three countries himself which he stated was due to technical issues. The Romanian, Azerbaijani and Georgian broadcasters say they had no technical issues at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    hmmmmmmmmmmm

    was it a case of Russian hackers trying to spoil the party?😶 all the countries mentioned above are from the former soviet bloc



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Nah, just the usual vote swapping that happens between juries every year at Eurovision. Bit unusual for six countries from one semi final to be doing it though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The lyrics to the Serbian song:


    "
    
    What’s the secret to Meghan Markle’s healthy hair?
    What's the secret?
    What’s the secret to Meghan Markle’s healthy hair?
    What's the secret?
    I think it's about deep hydration
    Say that
    Everything is clearly visible on the skin and hair
    For example, dark circles around the eyes
    They indicate liver problems
    Stains around the lips, maybe an enlarged spleen?
    An enlarged spleen is not good, it is not beautiful
    And the artist must be healthy
    Be healthy, be healthy
    To be healthy, to be-to-be-to-be healthy
    Be healthy, be healthy
    I have to, I have to, I have to
    It is a great happiness that it exists
    Autonomic nervous system
    I don't have to control my heart rate
    The heart beats, the heart just beats
    On a bright summer day
    My skirts on my body
    My skirts, the dog and me
    The two of us walk, count the steps
    The skirt goes around my leg
    We walk and that's it
    And it doesn't have to be better, the heart just beats
    I give confidence, let him just knock
    I give confidence, let it knock, let it breathe
    God of health, God of health, God of health
    I don't have a booklet
    So how to follow me
    To take care of me
    The artist is invisible
    You don't see me, it's magic
    An artist can be healthy
    Be healthy, be healthy
    To be healthy, to be-to-be-to-be healthy
    Be healthy, be healthy
    It can, it can, it can
    In corpore sano, in corpore sano
    In corpore sano, in corpore sano
    In corpore sano, in corpore sano
    The corpus is sanum and what do we do now?
    I have to go to the bathroom
    Animus tristis in corpore sano
    I was expecting nothing in the body
    I am in a bad situation
    And what do we do now?
    

    from google translate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77,586 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Treedays


    Really enjoyed this years competition. After listening to the whole playlist on spotify a few times over the last week, I find Portugal and Iceland's have really grown on me. Especially Portugal, it is such a beautifully composed and performed song. What's strange is the first time hearing all the songs watching the semi-finals, the ones I enjoyed most were the kind of "mad" ones (Norway, Serbia, Moldova, Latvia, Finland, Czech Republic). Found the slower ones a little boring at first, but Portugal's has that kind of lasting power as a song I could see myself still listening to it 10 years from now. Shocked that Spain finished ahead of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    +1 on Portugal surprised it didn't score higher, and the Girl who sang it is peaches & cream 😍 beautiful...

    Untitled Image




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    In other words, the whole thing stinks a bit. Not the end of the world exactly but further devalues the 'competition'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,499 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    young attractive and putting the hard work gigging on their own in europe



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