Eurovision Song Contest 2022

I'm ambivalent about the public voting but I think some element of it is here to stay.

I think they should get rid of this you can vote up to 20 times! Three max. End the window for voting earlier.

Open up the voting earlier when it gets to the last couple of songs.

Also, I wouldn't have the jury and public voting giving same number of points. Reduce it from 50:50 to 66:34 or 75:25.

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that's a good point, songs take time to grow on people and semi finalists songs have a head start in that regard

Yes, it's an interesting point. We have a fair sizable East European population here, I can understand them voting for their home countries but you'd think they'd also throw a few votes Irelands way and that their relations back in those countries might throw a vote this way. But I get the impression that it doesn't work that way, our immigrants vote to the east and can't be arsed about the country that pays their bills.

Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, said he hoped next year’s final would take place in the besieged port city of Mariupol.

Hmm, if the UK host will Graham Norton present? But then we lose his commentary...

He’ll probably be a presenter, like Terry Wogan was in 1998.

I can't believe people see any particular credibility in the juries! Just look at the make-up of ours - absolutely no reason they should have any more "professional" judgement for a song contest than the average viewer.

Blathnaid Treacy - famous for bring in Glenroe as a baby, presents the Lotto.

Deirdre Crookes - PR person associated with Electric Picnic.

Julian Vignoles - ex Hot Press, RTE commissioning editor, writer, documentary maker.

Niamh Kavanagh - singer, Eurovision winner 1993.

Philip McMahon - playwright and theatre director.

Some of these are very accomplished in their area of expertise and I'd have great time for Philip McMahon in particular, but they have no business claiming any more expertise in judging songs than the general public.

Well I think Niamh Kavanagh would have a better idea of vocal performance than the average person & it'd be reasonable to expect a theatre director to have a better understanding of staging & performance. But can't defend the rest...

I've no problem with Niamh Kavanagh and if the rest were of a similar background then fair enough. But the whole defence of the jury is that "it's a SONG contest" and the public are too swayed by flashy staging and gimmicks. So I don't think Philly McMahon is any more valid than the rest of us if it's supposed to be about the song.

Eurovision tends to split opinion, people have various tastes which is great, but IMHO the Irish entry was not good.

Just checked where we finished, and we finished 15th out of 18 in our semi-final.

Across the two semi-finals we finished 29th out of 35, (10 from each semi-final went through).

Across the whole competition we finished 34th out of 40.

So, to those who’ve said we did a good job, we were not even close to the standard we should be striving for.

No offence intended towards the singer and the dancers in her act, but the song and the choreography and the theatrics for the song just weren’t up to scratch.

Some of the other countries made use of the fantastic stage and props on offer, we chose a basic single singer with cheesy lyrics and a robotic simple dance routine that wouldn’t impress anyone.

I think generally each song will win votes across things like, vocalist (demonstrate some extraordinary ability like the UK did), Choreography (Ukraine had an insane break-dancer for example), Theatrical performance (Armenia for example, and arguably Ireland tried it last time), and lastly popularity, for example the UK entrant was so likeable, as was the Moldovan entrants (our version of Jedward basically).

I would appreciate if next year we picked an 18 year old (and by that I mean someone with a new verve) with some talent and gave them licence to decide on the theatrical delivery of their piece.

The days of phoning it in with a single singer with a bland song and a few rehearsed dance moves is long gone, thankfully.

Do people genuinely think the irish song was good? the girl can not sing, how on earth was she even chosen she genuinely cant sing. Like if she put on a show like Oxana maybe she could get away with it. But Oxana was pretty much a opera singer compared to that girl. Christ above

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Nixon managed to establish a solid landline connection to Neil Armstrong on the moon in 69, yet we can't get an audio/video link between two neighboring countries in 2022...

Just heard the presenter on Radio Kerry this morning say that the Ukrainian song that won this year was better than Maneskin's, holy god what an idiot.

I agree with almost everything you say... however Brooke is only 23, 4 years of 18, while the UK's Sam Ryder is 32. This idea of youth is a bit miss placed.

Also did the show fail to put up the country name, song, performer... etc before the Irish Entry? I though they messed the camera work up also, there was a point where the camera was in the crowd with the stage in the background but it seem to have lost focus, who made that decision.

Most of all the Irish entry has to stop being hosted as part of TLLS, it is only their to support a falling TLLS audience.