Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Who said it was being “over run”? They simply should not be here unless there’s a very bona fide reason.

And they certainly should not be in receipt of college places at the expense of taxpayers … that’s just a piss take…asylum is the act of going somewhere to seek protection and safety…nothing more…

they are given..

cash

accommodation

healthcare

safety and protection..

…

yet… and here are hundreds if not thousands of college places to be handed to them, too… a third level education is not a right, is not a ‘need’ for people fleeing the Ukraine…ffs, nutsville, why aren’t we buying anyone who drives… a car ? Or a holiday to the canaries after 5 months here .

what next ? Lay on translation specialists at college for those lacking fluency in English ? So they can understand lectures ?

Genuine question- do u live in Ireland Mick?

I'm not suggesting 300 males who don't fit the exemption category at all. It could be 5, 10, 20, 100 or more. I don't know. Like yourself, I'm not privy to records or government figures on this.

I gave it simply as a rough figure based on the following facts:

Several Irish newspaper reports stated that over 90% of all incoming refugees from Ireland were women and children, with some saying as much as 95%. A fact that's borne out by Wikipedia:

We can also add on to that figure of 90% all of the elderly men, which I read somewhere would account for 7% to 9%. I cant recall exactly where online I read it, but a figure of 99% was quoted as being the percentage of Ukranian refugees being women, children and elderly men.

As the latest Ukrainian refugee figures show approximately 30,000 in Ireland... 1% of that is 300. Which is where I've "estimated" 300 as being the maximum number of Ukrainian males here (not including elderly), some of which may not have justification to be here. I actually think it's a lot less than that. For all we know each of them may have a fully justifiable reason for being here, e,g, as carers, looking after children if their wife was killed, medical reasons, etc.

But of course we simply don't know the 'detail' of it all, unless someone is able to get figures released by the government.

Either way it's not such "an absurd" number after all, as you so thoughtfully put it.

My comment about you seeming to be a decent person may have been misplaced. You can carry on trying to trip me up by expecting me to verify all I say, but the bottom line is that there are likely only a few dozen at most who've slipped the net and managed to enter Ireland under false pretences. That would likely be comparable to any refugee crisis which some people will always try to exploit in some way.

Scandalous the Irish taxpayer is being forced to write a blank cheque for these lot of cowards. Men me arse

That info will never, ever be released willingly and only when the dust settles and FOI requests start rolling in and they will. Whatever about more recent arrivals , I know for a fact few questions were being asked at ports of entry for the first 5 weeks. Indeed our very own Taoiseach admitted checks were of secondary importance when it came to dealing with "our friends"

Even if we accept that checks were of secondary importance at the start surely there should be a process to carry them out now?

They may be but in reality I'm not even sure Irish Authorities can even check if a Ukrainian passport is even ligitmate, definitely not a Ukranian Driving license , they can be got online, cheaply enough, which makes the transfer to an Irish license utterly absurd and then there's the wink and nod insurance deals .

Previously there was nonsense about how efficient Ukrainian infrastructure is, its government etc 🙄, not only was it seriously corrupt, there is no Government functioning there apart from directing the defence of the nation, who for example do Irish immigration contact to verify a Ukranian passport is valid.

FG’s forte is smug virtue signalling within the south Dublin mindset so they don’t really look beyond to what the vast majority view as complete and utter insanity with the public purse

What’s the great new republic???

Meanwhile in Waterford.

January 2022.

In Waterford, 60 people were officially recorded as homeless last month - a drop of three on the previous month.

The Department of Housing statistics also reveal 1,077 families required homeless accommodation last month, a drop of 31 compared to November.

The figures don't include homeless people not engaged with government services, including women in refuge centres and those in direct provision.

Waterford remains the county with the highest number of homeless people in the South East.

The attached is NOT a Waterford Whisper, so to speak.

This is a great country if you're not actually IRISH.