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Eurovision Song Contest 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    The song was just about mediocre and the performance I thought was OK she gave it her best shot .It's unlikely Brooke will have a career in music singers like her are ten a penny .We will not figure at all with part time performers with very average songs .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Yeah and her record company and management will tell her "don't come home, if you do that f**king thing"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,970 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    We are not "good" at catchy ballads though. Or at least I see no evidence to suggest we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    I'd agree it wasn't the worst but it was far from a standout song and even allowing for bias it was borderline for getting into the top 10.

    We seem to consistently send songs and performers that a committee decide on and how they perform on stage rather than having a band/artist come in with confidence in their own talent and ideas around staging. I think as someone said earlier we just view the competition differently from a lot of Europe and the interest isn't their from established experienced acts to go forward for it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Here are a couple of sproblems I have noticed from the RTE selection web page ......

    Submit your entry to the Eurovision Song Contest 2022 (rte.ie)

    "If you are an accomplished songwriter with a proven track record of success in the music industry, we would like you to submit a song together with a suitable performer(s) to be considered to represent Ireland.

    All songs must be submitted with an artist(s) already attached, artists must have the talent, drive and ambition to compete at the highest level before a global audience of over 200 million people."

    So the songwriter gets to pick the artist to sing it. I'm not sure that's the best way to go about this.

    "Entries will be considered by a panel of music and entertainment industry professionals and Eurovision fans. Selected artists may be invited to audition in the RTÉ studios in Dublin." - Well, that could be anyone.

    "Although we wish to encourage and identify promising new talent for the future, this is probably not an opportunity for beginners or people with limited or no experience of performing in public to large crowds." With the greatest of respect to Brooke, I think she probably comes into the "limited experience" category - although she did her best.

    I'm sure Michael Kealy, RTE's Head of Delegation is a nice person and wants success as much as anyone but making a few radio documentaries and being executive of the Late Late Show in serious decline for a few seasons really does not qualify him in any serious way for the role, it would seem.

    There's a bang of "this is how we've always done it" from the RTE selection process.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    Was this a literal or figurative ‘shat himself’?

    Hopefully the latter, for the audiences sake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭johnire


    The point that everyone seems to be forgetting and not one to pour oil on troubled waters but the citizens of Brooke Scullions own country were eligible to vote for her and even with this huge advantage she still couldn’t qualify. How mortifying is that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,970 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    But most of the citizens of her own country don't understand that she is from their country and don't really care about Eurovision that much anyway.

    On top of that every Irish act has always had the advantage of the UK vote so it's no more mortifying than any other year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Juran




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Expunge


    I noticed BBC NI sent over a reporter and even did a live Q and A into their Newsline show yesterday evening. You can't say she didn't get a good push with resources in the north.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,899 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Do they? Are we always paired in same Semi as UK?

    I thought this year having Australia and UK voting on same night might be helpful.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,587 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I think it was a bit disappointing that Brooke's entry didn't make the cut for the final - it was certainly a much better song than last year - but as the others opined, in the general scheme of songs performed it was really only average. I do also think, however, that inferior songs did get through, like Romania and Belgium. Sweden IMO was the best song performed last night.

    I do think she gave it her all and the staging was good but we really need to put forward some better artists if we are to have a decent chance. Ireland does not take Eurovision seriously enough and hasn't for years now, the same problem exists with the UK.

    Post edited by JupiterKid on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    so Ukraine are going to win?? 😐️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,212 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Liam Reilly would have been turning in his grave listening to that attempt last night.


    Had another listen to Somewhere in Europe, fantastic song.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,675 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Why didn’t we submit a song in Ukrainian language?? We would have qualified then. Or at least a song taking the pi$s out of Russia. Next year we should do this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    I'd be surprised if they don't get 12 points from every jury, public voting probably follow the same pattern



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,970 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If they can't host next year it should really be offered to second place (the real winner)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    it could be held in a underground bunker perhaps? 😶



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭LordBasil


    Maybe part of the reason Ireland didn't qualify is that Europeans might not have understood the meaning of 'That's Rich when it's coming from you', kind of like how 'Dying to try' was a bit lost on people. The lesson is do not send a song to ESC that revolves around a phrase that Europeans might not know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭pnott


    This Eurovision feels like a write off to me. The overall standard of songs this year is not great. Some are better than others but I can’t see myself listening to any of them after the final. Some very questionable songs got through to the final. With Ukraine a dead cert to win, the best song is definitely not going to win sadly. As a huge fan of Eurovision I can say for the first time I am not that excited about it. In terms of Ireland, given that Serbia qualified I’d say we were not far off qualifying and it was just bad luck that we didn’t get through. I will continue to tell myself that so I don’t lose all sense of hope!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    Which song is stuck in everones head now before the final? Bizzarly for me its the Norway one, which actually slaps on a decent set of speakers.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭LordBasil


    Re Norway, 1 of the members of Subwoolfer is allegedly Ben Adams, formerly of late 90s/early 00s boyband A1!! Subwoolfer have not removed their masks in public so no-one is quite sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,970 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    They should start a rumour that one of them is Zelenskyy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭glitterIsland


    This is ridiculous.


    Shouldn't it be genuinely be the best song wins. The Ukrainian song really isn't very great. My ears don't like it. If the jury and the public votes giving Ukraine the highest points doesn't that just indicate it's all political voting.


    How can anyone have faith in the song contest that is Eurovision if it's based on political votes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,695 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Wait till the votes, I wouldn't be surprised if not every country toed the line. Ukraine will probably still win easily, bit either the jury vote or the public one will be slightly off. It could end up closer than people are expecting. Could be embarrassing if it's in the balance though..!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭glitterIsland


    Some of the songs that made it through on last nights semi final was ridiculous. Say what you will about our own entry with Brooke, I liked Malta but that didn't get through.


    Some of the songs that got through were awful. We would have been better off sending Richie Kavanagh or Pat Short with his jumbo breakfast roll.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,774 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I liked Serbia for being different, at least it was not another ballad for the final, and one can do the hand dance:)



  • Posts: 24,009 ✭✭✭✭ Azariah Kind Redneck


    …. Wrong thread



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭_NAGDEFY


    If the Ukraine wins it won't do them much good, always an asterisk beside it. Whoever comes second will be the real winner.

    It just shows the difference in 3 decades of how social media, the cause of the day has changed society.

    Bosnia got a good round of applause for arriving in Millstreet from their war torn country in 1993. Came mid table in the voting.

    This war in Ukraine is very wrong. But their are other equally as wrong conflicts at present. I never can remember a war being so prominent in Irish news and life before, since WW2, when bombs hit Campile and the North Strand in Dublin and we had rationing.



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