Eurovision Song Contest 2022

Hurrache

Tuesdays selection of songs was so much better than tonights and I thought Ireland would have been a shoe in. She performed well and was a decent song, certainly enough to put her into the top 10. Even excluding Ireland not getting through, it was an odd top 10.

But good to the annual gathering of Irish self loathing is a constant at least.

squarecircles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054695#Comment_119054695

Yes she should have came out, sat on a chair and washed her feet in a bucket instead, that would probably have qualified...oh wait...no.

Are Walsh, Logan and Martin still behind the scenes when it comes to the EV????

Mo Ghile Mear

However they'd probably replace him with Nicky Byren

I actually think Nicky would be a good choice.

He's a good presenter.

(I don't know how to quote just one line from a previous post😑)

Expunge

I hope the lads singing about the train journey from Moldova do well on Saturday.

It's what Europe needs right now.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054736#Comment_119054736

Nope don't think so.

It's a group of people in RTE head of delegation is Michael Kealy, that make (a hash of) the selection.

leahyl

Surely Sweden will walk it on Saturday night - that girl has some stage presence, got shivers listening to her, great song.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054746#Comment_119054746

Not just the selection, the artist, song and delivery was ok the presentation was terrible vs others.

quartz1

I thought she was the best artist we sent in years. Ireland were lucky in that the public had the opportunity to cast a vote this year in the National Final because if left to the Jury Rte recruited she would not be there.

Its an awful pity Rte Management don't evaluate their role in the poor Irish results over many years and consider a change in those within the organisation who have the task of finding our entry. The results speak for themselves and they are spending public money

It must be a wonderful junket for some of those who tag along for the two weeks .

reservoirdubdub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054736#Comment_119054736

Linda Martin will be delivering the Irish vote on Saturday night.

dogcat

Really happy that Serbia made it to the final, one of the best songs of the year and hope it'll smash on Saturday.

Id imagine that RTE are sick of the shite at this stage too. Nonsense. People will watch regardless of us sending a brutal act over every year.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054607#Comment_119054607

Speak for yourself. Sad post.

kyote00

Well, at least we have the World Cup to look forward to….

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054811#Comment_119054811

But have they not tried over and over again to get a selection formula right.

We've had You're a Star.

We've had traditional contests with public voting.

We've had traditional contests with public and jury voting.

We've had drip feed contests on The Late Late Show for a few weeks and then a final.

We've had behind closed doors selections.

You can't blame RTE for not trying different things.

RobertKK

https://twitter.com/misslavren/status/1524851227841945601?s=20&t=EQKbi-NUTRK6t0oWu3Ci9w

These got the best crowd reaction in decibels in the arena.

kowloonkev

I thought she sounded like a good kareoke singer but not like a professional. The song gives the suggestion at times it is building up to a powerful vocal performance but then doesn't, as if realising her limitations.

freshpopcorn

She's mad!

https://youtu.be/c7bnJ6wQpOw

screamer

Thought the Irish performance was weak, mediocre dancing and TBH it sounded just a little bit like Gina Gs song from about 20 years ago. I think we are and continue to be a very different flavour to what mainlanders like. We’re never gonna win another Eurovision and I think it’s time we stop wasting time and money on it.

LordBasil

To me Ireland's problems at modern Eurovision began in 2001, when following Gary O'Shaughnessy's poor result, Ireland had to miss the 2002 contest as there was no semifinal back then. When we returned in 2003, instead of having a National Song Contest, RTE tacked representing Ireland at ESC as the prize for winning You're a Star. After that failed, the tried having a selected artist sing songs on the Late Late, then we sent Dustin the Turkey, followed by Jedward, followed by consecutive no qualifications. Any half decent result was followed by disasters;

10TH 2006, LAST IN 2007

8TH in 2011, 19TH in 2012, last in the final in 2013 , followed by 4 consecutive NQs

16th in 2018 followed by 2 last place NQs in 2019 and 2021. Now we've also NQ in 2022

We haven't been able to build any sustained momentum, become respected again. People both within Ireland and outside now automatically expect us to fail miserably. Brooke was last in the SF2 Qualification odds until rehearsals began. Eurovision has become dirty word in the Irish music industry, whereas years ago big names in the Irish music scene would put themselves forward - Sean Dunphy, Dicky Rock, Red Hurley, The Swarbriggs, Liam Reilly and so on.

I don't know how RTE can improve things or even if they want to.....

freshpopcorn

I think it needs something to intise people.

Maybe a cash prize.

We need to get better people involved than former boy band members for starters.

freshpopcorn

Grand final running order!

_NAGDEFY

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055008#Comment_119055008

Lucky bastard

_NAGDEFY

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055009#Comment_119055009

Agreed. Gina G 1996!! 26 years.

_NAGDEFY

It was a very mediocre song. We needed huge luck to qualify. You have to be memorable.

Many times over the years I've seen songs like Serbia get through. Why? Because if 8/10 can't stand it, it doesn't matter. All you need to do is really hit the other 2/10 strong enough that they'll go to the bother of voting. Serbia had something that made it unique.

If you're in Germany say, would you be bothered texting a vote for Ireland tonight. I don't think it had anything that would make you vote over other songs.

Also this Eastern European block voting doesn't hold up. It will help you qualify, and move up a few positions in the final. But I'll go through what won over the last 16 years or so that were traditional Eurovision Western European countries like us. And it proves if the song is good enough you don't have to be a slavic state with a lot of neighbours.

Finland-Lordy 2006

Norway-Alexander Rybak 2009

Germany-Lena 2010

Sweden-Loreen 2012

Denmark- Emilie de Forest 2013

Austria- Conchita 2014

Sweden-Heroes 2015

Portugal-Salvador Sobral 2017

The Netherlands- Duncan Lawrence 2019

Italy-Maneskin 2021

Ten out of the last 15 or so Eurovisions were won by the old 'traditional' Eurovision countries pre 1990. What's the common denominator? Mostly very good songs. So much for Eastern European dominance. That's clichéd bollox you hear from someone who watches the competition every 5 years and is saying the same thing since 2005.

touts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054993#Comment_119054993

That's the problem. We need to send professionals. Brooke seems like a nice person but she is a receptionist for an estate agent who sings in her spare time. It's like sending a few league of Ireland lads to the world cup. They will give it a go and be all excited, bless them, but at the end of the day the real professionals from the other nations will kick their ass.

Welsh Megaman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119054990#Comment_119054990

Pat Shortt must have been in the audience, that’s why the decibel levels went up!

reniwren

There are 3 things missing as usual. Production, dynamics and someone who can sing the notes which have been recorded.

Fair play for her for giving it a go, but songs which are going for this need to be written by people who don't listen to the generic sh1t shoved down our throats on Irish radio.

CruelSummer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119055094#Comment_119055094

Some of the comments following Ireland’s NQ are pathetic but this one takes the biscuit. Taking a swipe at the contestant themselves that stood up, got picked and did a great job for us. There is nothing more Brooke could have done, her delivery was excellent and she performed extremely well while doing tricky choreography moves in front of an audience of millions. I don’t like her song but fair dues to her for what she did last night, it was the best performance in years from Ireland. We could and should easily have qualified especially over Romania, Serbia and Azerbaijan which was absolutely rubbish.

To me it seems this year, the jury’s are playing a big role in who’s getting through which is why the final will have a lot of folk and ballad type songs. It might be time to send an actual good song & a capable vocalist and worry a bit less about staging and gimmicks. Norway can get away with it as they’ve had some very good entries in the last number of years. If Ireland fail to qualify with an actual good act like say the U.K. are sending, then it’s time to consider our position at Eurovision. Until then, we cannot have much to complain about with what we’re sending.

It’ll be interesting to see the results when they’re published as to how the vote actually went last night.

callaway92

Any love for a complete change up and send a rap/hip-hop/grime type song?

Never see it in Eurovision really. Might be a reason we don’t but I’d like to see it if it was good.