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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    If you bothered to read the thread. You'll find there was considerable scepticism at that figure.

    But because you haven't, you're throwing shapes at posters who have called out your comments as being along the lines of outraged.ru.

    Not really surprising looking at what you've posted so far tbf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    After a short sabbatical, a USAF Global Hawk is back over the Black Sea paying particular attention to the coast around Odessa and the Moldovan border.

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  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Hopefully he'll be able to welcome them on the return journey soon... well, some of them anyway. Not all obvs...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    I think we may be looking at the poster formally known as Burgerface....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I must have missed all the justifications for Iraq? Where are they, can you point them out please?

    The old Iraq cherry, we were on a good run, hadn't seen it in about 50 pages.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,479 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    The failure to take the capital and a 40KM stuck convoy..... Says it all.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Addmagnet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    So here is the best insight you can get into Russia's plan to secure the Donbass. You would expect Russia to repeat the small encirclement strategy if they can capture Sievierodonetsk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭zv2


    If, as a very rough estimate, you average 10 troops per vehicle that's 730 dead/injured.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Multiple encirclements would give the Ukrainians lot of opportunities to destroy Russian equipment on the move. Can’t be much offensive threat left now by the Russians, end game can’t be far off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Ukranian air-carrier Antonov Airlines AN-124 is seen here over Poland on the way back from Oslo. The crews must fly with a mixture of immense pride and sadness.

    These aircraft are regular visitors to Shannon and have the Ukranian flag colours implemented into the graphic along the sides.

    They can lift 150 tonnes and the Norwegian ministry of defence refused to comment on the nature of the flight. I'm sure we can all guess. It's descending through 27,000ft over Poland at the moment so my guess is Rzeszow (J-town)

    Screenshot_20220512-183417_Flightradar24.jpg Screenshot_20220512-183307_Chrome.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Russian embassies and cities need to burn for what they have inflicted on the people of Ukraine .




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭zv2


    yes but I'm talking about an average, including engineers, etc.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You don’t know any Russians or Ukrainians.

    I do actually. Even went out with a Ukrainian for her sins. This was before Maidan and even back then she described the east of her country like the Ulster Troubles on steroids. Also back then she had Russian friends here. The emnity between them has been stoked up by putin over the last few years since Crimea. A bit of it coming from the Ukrainian side too in the Donbas anyway.

    I'm with you on the mass psychology bit. The same people doing it here but for an accident of birth would be doing the same on Telegram going the other direction. It is what it is. Human nature. I try to ignore the noise and look for the signal.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Interesting take on the recent vid from the Chinese state reporter(well aren't they all...) showing the russian tank attempting near earth orbit with its turret.


    If confirmed that it happened where it did(deep in Russian "held" territory) that must surely put the serious fear into the Russian forces and command.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Ukranian Emergency Services An-26 currently flying in Ukranian airspace with its Transponder ON! Surprisingly.

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  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So surprised that crowd would criticise anything with a Democrat in the President's office. 🤣

    Yeah there's been a growing mismatch the last week to 10 days between the large-scale maps and reports. Looking at the map on the BBC site you'd think aside from the fuckers north of Kyiv leaving there'd been next to no Ukrainian gains at all. Which may even be the case but things have been feeling a bit like they're just not tallying. May be mostly or partly down to reducing information flow while on the offence of course.



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  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lost a couple of quoted posts but I think one was @Wibbs and talking about how the Russians may rise up. I can't remember your overall conclusion but do you think you may be over-crediting Russian living standards? Out East they have communal toilets. They're the kinds of shitholes the soldiers come from, and also the kind of places they're in the middle of abducting 1000s of Ukrainians to. Was it hundreds of thousands or millions of Russians who left when the war kicked off? That's a sizeable chunk of their middle class straightaway. Economy gets fucked, instantly a smaller bourgeoisie to placate. :P I dunno, they seem to be accepting it so far and organised opposition these days is harder if anything for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I remember when people were saying Russia only had enough money to prosecute the war until the end of week two or whatever it was, some time in early March. Point is that predictions seem to be all over the place with this. I have said that I can't see how Russia can mount a sustained war effort given the losses they appear to have been taking, and, indeed, the increasing sanctions the country is coming under (the oil/gas embargo from the EU sounds like it ought to be a significant hit to Russian finances), but experts are also saying that they expect the war to now last well into the Summer. The opinion now seems to be forming that the most likely outcome over the coming months is one of protracted stalemate and what looks to me like a much bloodier version of the Donbass conflict that had been festering for the last nearly a decade.

    Can the Ukrainians make breakthroughs and recapture territory that's been sitting under brutal Russian occupation? I absolutely hope they can, but I don't think they'll be as bloody-minded about doing so as the Russians. If the Russians find that they're running out of the weapons and will to launch effective offense, I would expect they'll switch to a defensive mindset and try to pick off Ukrainian forces as they attempt to push further into the Donbass or maybe even Crimea. If Putin's not willing to simply walk away from this war but cannot gather the necessary resources to subjugate Ukraine, it would make sense for him to try and bleed Ukraine white, just as Ukraine has been doing to Russia.

    It's this awful tit for tat that I worry about the most where you hear on the news about offensives being waged by Ukraine and tows/villages liberated, but little ever seems to really change on the conflict map. Both countries need something extra to really take control of the course of this conflict, but what's it going to be?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    The very rare TU-154 took off from Belgorod airport just over the border from Kharkiv. This airframe RA-85843 is usually seen following and supporting Putins presidential aircraft when he visits abroad.

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    Here it is pictured in Holland supporting Putins visit there a few years ago.

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  • Posts: 2,015 [Deleted User]


    What fact,that you hate the west and its freedoms or just whataboutism because you feel lonely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,570 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    That claim doesn't really make sense, that they're taking components from appliances and using them to repair tanks. Are their production, logistics and supply lines that good that systems have been redesigned to use commercial parts, been shipped to the front line, and installed in tanks all in the space of a few months? More likely they've been using non-mil qualified parts all along. Quite often the commercial parts are identical to the military grade, just they'd be better tested and might be packaged differently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,037 ✭✭✭jmreire


    It does not help when the turrets are just resting on roller /ball bearings on top of the main frame . They depend on sheer weight to keep them in place. And maybe some of the ammunition is stored in them as well. They are turned by a relatively small but powerful electric motor which engages in a much larger ring gear set within the turret itself, it works the very same as the ring gear on a car flywheel, when turned by the starter motor, but thats the only contact the turret has with the main body.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Ukraine have something extra, unlimited free state of the art equipment from the west along with all the intelligence.

    The timings and outcomes are down to the west now. Russia can be thrown out of Ukraine if the west decide that is appropriate. I suspect they won’t go that far. When Russia is weakened to an acceptable agree the west will organise peace talks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,822 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Let's address this.

    Firstly, are you suggesting the russia have it's nuclear weapons removed, it's conventional forces lessened and be told that if they do anything to change that, they'd be nuked as "containment". Is that what you're actually saying? Because no-one has threatened to nuke Iran or north korea. Know why? Because threatening to nuke a country is insane. Actually nuking them is worse.

    Germany had great minds. And yet the nazi's still came to power. Many of those great minds were in the nazi party. And they believed germany was humiliated. And I have honestly, no idea why you're mentioning it.

    Germany received massive investment, and yet still felt humiliated because other countries were dictating what it could and could not do. So no idea why you're mentioning that.

    "* Germany right up to ww2 had massive trade flows, Russias already collapsing". I have absolutely no idea why you're doing this. Germany had huge trade flows until the war started. They disappeared after the war started. Russia had trade flows too, before the war. They disappeared too.


    And none of what you said addresses the point that dictating stuff like no nuclear weapons. limiting conventional forces, dictating who can be in power are ways to humiliate countries. When you look at countries this has happened to in the past, it always works out bad. It breeds hatred and resentment. It can even cause an unpopular leader to become popular simply because they fight against it. It might actually make the countries fight harder to avoid domination by a foreign power. And that includes using nuclear weapons.

    If we want a peaceful and friendly russia, then we have to wait for regime change from inside. Forcing it from outside simply reinforces the narrative that the other countries are enemies. And when you look at rogue nations like north korea and Iran, they still find ways, not just to keep weapons, but actually develop them from scratch, whilst having huge sanctions and keeping their population down.

    So I have no problem believing that forcing russia to give up its nuclear weapons through sanctions is anything except a deluded pipedream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,822 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I had heard otherwise. Still, I'd probably be more scared of someone that would use a catapult to launch a missle ;)

    (Am I right in remembering that you could do that in the game civilisation? )



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Neither of those things are going to bring back ordinary Ukrainians senselessly slaughtered by the Russian military, and the occurrence of either or both will likely only pressure Putin to try and react with greater force, thus making the situation worse not better, as the conflict gets locked into a vicious cycle of escalating reprisal. Who needs to burn are the Russian soldiers themselves carrying out such deeds, and the Ukrainian military are making a pretty good go of that so far, and hopefully that can continue until there's no more fight left in the Russians and they F off back across the internationally-recognised borders, where they belong.



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