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Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,228 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Howard and Saul in the ring was hilarious

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Glad Lalo didn't kill off Little Bear or his owner in Germany. Surely if Howard's PI is following Jimmy Mike's guys will spot him as they are watching Jimmy as well.

    Kim and Jimmy seem to expect Howard to suspect them as they discussed in the bed this seemed to be factored in to their plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,566 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I was terrified for that poor dog at the end, I was far more invested in Barchen than his owner. Nice that she survived too, of course.

    Just on Howard, now that he has a PI following Jimmy, the dynamics are very interesting. There isn’t a lot being said about how another car shadowing Jimmy, and Kim by extension, will lead her into a false sense of security if Lalo shows up and dispatches of Mike’s men.

    Having two different parties tailing the couple, along with Lalo waiting to make his return and Gus keeping track of it all himself too, it’s beautifully set up for a chaotic showdown in the later episodes I think. I have a feeling that Howard is the one that’ll get caught up in the middle, and Kim’s fate will stretch into the second half of the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Just a heads up we have two more episodes before the mid-season break. Also good breakdown of the episode and all the little details you might have missed like Lalo looking at Werner's ruler he sees who made it and can track down Werner"s Boys to get more information from them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭pjcb


    are kim and jimmy hoping that Howard will overreact? and thats what gets him...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,501 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Good episode. Very tense last ten minutes or so.


    Anyone got any theories on Gus in the lab? Definitely seemed like he was planning something or am I overthinking and he was just wanting to get construction finished?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Loved Jimmy and Howard boxing. Reminded me of the fight scene in Bridget Jones 😄 Like others are saying I'm wondering how Jimmy being followed by a PI is going to pan out given Mike is following them. Or is Mike only following Kim? Either way there's bound to be some crossover between the followers.

    I'm starting to root for Lalo 😬 What's with the 'award'? Initially I thought it was a big lump of uncut crystal meth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭artvanderlay


    Lalo is definitely the most charming and sociable Salamanca (not that he's up against much opposition) and I was glad to see him back this week. I figured he wouldn't kill Little Bear or Werner's wife because he only kills when he needs to. He's probably the most dangerous Salamanca yet, because he has control over his impulses and that's why Gus is really put out by him.

    Getting tired of Jimmy and Kimmy and I wish they'd wrap their story line up soon and jump forward to Cinnabon Jimmy. Maybe give us a couple of episodes set entirely there. Kim could still be alive in the future, as could Lalo and Howard (and Jesse!). Actually my prediction overall is that Howard will end up dead because of Jimmy and Kim, possibly at the hands of Lalo/Gus, and that could scare Kim straight. She reminds of someone who is going dangerously close to the line but doesn't know what it is like to actually cross it. Jimmy does and that's why he's not as into the Howard revenge as she is. She's looking for thrills/revenge but I think when she does finally see the consequences of her actions, she will run and straighten herself out. Even her balancing her beer bottle on the railing of her balcony while smoking made me uneasy; she's wants to live on the edge and it could all turn out horribly for her. I thought the scene with her ex-PA complimenting Kim on her morality was interesting; it's flattering to Kim, but I also get the sense that she ultimately doesn't want to be the good shepherd who takes care of others. her mother was a drunk, and Kim was the responsible one; I think she's sick of that role.


    6/10 episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    He left a gun in the tracks of the mini-digger so...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    They really teased us/the viewers with a potential Lalo sex scene….. would have been great to see



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,501 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Ah, I missed that. Couldn't quite see what he was doing at the digger track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    Why did he get spooked at Los Pollos hermanos and go outside ?

    Also what was the deal with leaving the gun on the JCB ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I was wondering what set him off at the chicken place too...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,480 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Didn't one of the employees drop a large tray or something. Something that caused a clatter of noise. Gus barely showed any reaction but he's so on edge that I think he needed to go outside. I think he realised he can't continue waiting for Lalo and that's what made him then return to the dig site for whatever he's planning next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    He thinks lalo will somehow find the underground lab so left the gun as safety? Surely the digger will move unless construction has stopped?


    How did he find Werner's wife. How did he know about Werner?


    Great episode



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,751 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    That seems to be the way it is going. Kim and Jimmy ‘did not cover their tracks’. On purpose.

    And who knows what the next stage is that Kim/Jimmy have planned? Kim implied it was enough to make Jimmy feel guilty to agree to the boxing match. Which I did not expect was well done.

    But where it can go wrong now is if the outsider observers of Kim/Jimmy colliding. Mike’s men and Howard’s PI? Who will spot who? What will happen between those two camps doing the observing? It will be tense.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,751 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    There is a fan theory that Kim never dies. And is hiding behind the scenes in BB directing Jimmy/Saul….

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Penfailed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Someone mentioned Werner to him in an earlier episode...I can't remember who though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,751 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    In the last ep S6 ep5. I got to be honest was watching it going through the motions for most of it. Enjoyed the boxing scene and PI but. Then not much happening but watching it in case something could happen.

    Was all set to say there was not much tension in the episode. Because we know Gus’s future story.

    Then bang ‘LALO’ tension up to 90. If you did not know the background story you would think it was a romantic type show.

    The writers fooled me completely- I assumed it would be another episode of ‘no Lalo?’

    I thought it was superbly done. Was very natural. Lonely widow in bar alone, meets charming stranger.

    At the end I was left with the question why did Lalo NOT kill Margarthe -

    1) Because he respected her on some level?

    Or

    2) Because it would raise suspicion back in New Mexico if he killed her?

    I think back to how Lalo casually murdered Fred in the Travel place. But then how Lalo seems to respect Kim at some level.

    My only small issue with the Lalo - Germany scene. Is where did Lalo get the key for the door of the apartment?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,634 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If you didn't like season one, you're very unlikely to like any of the later seasons either. This was a show that was great from the start (if you're into that kind of thing)

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    I was just thinking the same yesterday, can you imagine the WTF moment, if she turns up in a Gene episode .... wow...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,751 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Gus left a gun hidden in the digger. But I was thinking there must be a reason. I remember Gus came to the realisation when he said to Mike that ‘Lalo cannot strike…not yet…’

    This to me meant that Gus finally copped on that Lalo will be amassing more evidence on the lab. In order to inform the Cartel so they can make a move on Gus.

    Gus knows (like we do) that Lalo has no one he can trust in America. He had to use Jimmy with to collect his bags of money. Also it is not the first time Gus has planned a murder in his lab. The ‘waiting game’ for Gus is he is waiting for Lalo to find that Lab.

    We know the lab is not destroyed until much later in BB.

    We can assume that the gun will be used later. When Lalo underestimates Gus?

    And does Gus kill Lalo or does Gus assume he is dead?

    Remember Gus to Hector in BB - ‘You are the last remaining Salamanca and the name will die with you….’

    The writers have to tie that in BCS somehow. A lot can happen in a secret underground lab, buried deep in the ground, with a gun hidden in a digger.

    Plus I assume the lab is soundproof to a gun shot?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    In fairness, it does pick up a lot in s2/s3 as the cartel stuff gets more and more central.

    I did like S1 too, but can understand why people don't, so I would stick it out @fryup till at least S2 end, and okay if you still aren't into it , give it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,751 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Yeah it was on the phone all the info got was. ‘The South Wall’ tons of concrete. And Mike / Michael- Gus Fring was invoked. Before Mike stopped the call.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    As regards Gus storming out of Los Pollos:

    I saw it suggested somewhere that it was the guy's mention of Curly Fries, which Gus pitched at the Madrigal meeting in a previous season, where himself and Lydia met the German chief of operations. So he twigged the "German" connection of the curly fries being linked to Germany, and his suspicious construction project being linked to Germany. So maybe he suspects Lalo of doing some digging there?

    It's a stretch, but makes a certain amount of sense?

    Plus then visiting the lab, and acting out a scenario where Lalo finds himself in there with Gus? ie Leaving the gun 6 paces from where he was standing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    I think Gus storming out of Los Pollos is just a man at his wits end who is usually in control of everything but at present he cannot control Lalo.

    I think leaving the gun in the track of the JCB is probably with Lalo in mind I wouldn't be surprised if Gus brings Lalo to the lab and shoots Lalo with the hidden gun and also buries him there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    I had the same thought, Gus as far as I can recall never carried a gun in BB so just before he left his office the camera highlighted the fact that he has to carry one now in fear that Lalo may try kill him at any point. He drifts away into looking out into the carpark wondering is Lalo out there and then the noise of the trays dropping startles him out of his fear.

    Now its time to be the Gus we know from BB and get Lalo before Lalo gets him.

    In saying that I think it may not be Lalo that gets the chop in the lab.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭VG31


    Werner's wife wasn't a very convincing German. Jaywalking and shoes on in the house!



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