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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    it seems sanctions started working, if the lack of products on shelves are discussed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Why do people assume that off you don’t spout some faux outrage or revel in some drone footage of Russian soldiers, who are people too, being blown up posted to this tread that your some sort of pro Russian separatist.

    As regards the the far right Azov group of fighters in Ukraine and there terrible record. If you don’t believe that then your not living in the real world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    All too often separatism is the beginning of trouble. I wonder if the separatists in Donbas are now as keen as they were last year.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    I don't read Russian propaganda whether from the source or those they pay.


    It's the Azov battalion who are fighting and dying for democracy in Europe while the Russian beast tries to reinvent the Soviet Union.


    Did they have a few bad eggs, probably, was it anything significant,no.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    CNN, the BBC, aljeezria, RTE are not Russian propagandist groups. If you want to live in cloud cuckoo land that’s fine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,027 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Did not work out too well for them in Afghanistan fighting against people wearing sandals, and no sanctions on their economy, and suffering unsustainable losses in military equipment and men, as they are now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Beria was a Super human level communist, like the best Communists he was born in to a very wealthy family, rose quickly in the revolution, became Cheka head of Georgia, where he became noted for his rate of killing, so impressed the Communist leadership that he was brought to Moscow. Over saw the purges, the famine in the Ukraine, the extermination of the Crimean Tatars, Katyn etc.


    He also used kidnap and torture women on the streets of Moscow and had a torture chamber in his house.


    This communist Demi God has a battalion named after him, that are directly under Putin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,057 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't care if the Azov Battalion literally marches in a giant swastika formation, sieg heiling, anyway. The existence of such a battalion would still be absolutely no justification for Russia to attempt an invasion of Ukraine such as it has. If Russia had said, "We're going into the separatist regions of Luhansk and Donetsk and we will enforce the ceasefire line that Kyiv refuses to.", I think the world would have grumbled, but accepted it. Putin would have been hailed a hero for securing the safety of ethnic Russians in that area. It's obvious to the world that this conflict has always been about a lot more than fighting some alleged Nazis in the east of Ukraine.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because, and this doesn't seem to penetrate for some people, the RUSSIANS are the aggressors. They make the black and tans look like the girl guides. If they are on Ukraine soil their deaths will be celebrated.

    Does any of the above need to be explained in words of fewer syllables?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The reality is that fascism is near non existent in the western world, including Ukraine.


    Over the last 10 years people have been pretending that fascists are everywhere. Often those screaming loudest about the threat of fascism are those who have links to Russia.


    Russia isn't behind it but it certainly helped push it on a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo



    "Crushi(ing) the evil spirits of Nazism in the bud, defeat not only puppets but also their rulers. (...) heirs of a victorious people, and victory is in our genes. The battle for Russia continues! Our enemy will be defeated!:"

    These are the people who Putin thinks are his "nazi enemies" - a son who watched his father die after they were attacked whilst attempting to rescue their dogs

    Every TV station and screen in Russia needs to be hacked during Putins victory parade and that video and all the others like it played, so the Russians can see who the real "nazis" are

    🤬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Didn’t work out in Afghanistan for any invading force. Like the Afghan war Russia had the clock but the Afghanis had the time as do the Ukrainians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Never at any stage have I attempted to justify the Russian invasion of Ukraine. if all those knee jerk reactions mean you can’t understand English or whatever political bent you have going on means information triggers a tyraid that’s your problem. 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,038 ✭✭✭jackboy


    That is interesting but also a big claim. Those who have been shouting loudest about fascists being everywhere are the western media, including RTE. They hardly all have links to Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭threeball


    That was back in the first few days of the invasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    I hope Putin will order a full mobilization tomorrow ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    And in the meantime Siberian disaster continues.

    The situation is very difficult also due to weather conditions. Strong winds of up to 40 m/s cause the fire to spread faster and make it difficult to extinguish it

    Due to the high temperature, permafrost melts and carbon dioxide and methane are released into the atmosphere. So this is a real environmental catastrophe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Who is saying they have links to Russia?

    That Russia is using Nazism as his excuse to illegally invade, bomb and ethnicity cleanse another country is one thing.

    Idiots picking it up and repeating it is quite another



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Ceramic


    I just find it rather bizarre to hear a country ranting and raving about nazis, while doing pretty much everything the actual 1930s nazis did back in the day and then to see posters and commentators somehow falling into the rabbit hole of regurgitating the same b/s statements defending it.

    Russia is also the same country that was funding very far right political groups in Europe and elsewhere. Literally promoting neo nazism, racism, homophobia and all sorts of other stuff that absolutely is part of a nazi agenda. Yet, everyone else is a nazi apparently.

    Ukraine is a fledgling, developing democracy and still classified as a developing country. It had problems, most of which very much paralleled Russian problems and most of which were caused by being a post soviet state, trying to rebuild itself.

    Most of its politics is centrist and if you look at its voting patterns, far right groups represented a very tiny % of its political system. By all accounts it was moving in a direction that was beginning to look more like a progressive EU candidate. There was a growing focus on rights based freedoms. The biggest issues it faced was getting away from the influence of corruption driven by oligarchs and disastrous Russian style politics and constant threats and interference from Moscow and its proxies, including Trump’s bizarre meddling btw.

    It absolutely was not full of nazis and this notion that finding any element of far right political actors in Ukraine as a justification for the absolute barbarism that Russia inflicted on it is just propaganda. If you dig into almost any country’s politics, you’re going to find some elements of far right leaning politics, mostly at the fringes of the fringes. Ukraine was no different in that regard. Russia itself seems to lack any kind of mirrors or ability to see itself. It’s is now a full military fascist state, led by a madman and wallowing in its own propaganda. There’s no question about that anymore.

    By the looks of it we are about to be lectured about the dangers of nazisim by a strange guy on a big military stage, surrounded by weird Z symbol flags, national flags, parading soldiers and weapons of mass destruction, who’s conducting Blitzkrieg, running concentration camps and suppressing all opposition while seeing absolutely no irony in any of that.

    The whole thing is absolute madness.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Do the Azov have far right elements? Damn right they do. The Far Right in Ukraine has been a problem and one that was being reported for years by western media and government and NGO's right up to this invasion kicking off(IMHO too much of it in the western media was fears of nazis everywhere, as the Far Right has lost a lot of ground in Ukraine in the past decade). And after this is over it'll need to be looked at again.

    However and it's the most important point. This was Mariupol before

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    This is it today

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    If the Russians hadn't invaded it would not look like this. Even if someone was to believe the Russian utter bullshít that it was Ukraine/Azov who were shooting up their own city*, it would still be the case that if the Russians hadn't invaded it would not look like this.

    Even if someone was mornonic enough to believe that all the damage and all the atrocities were carried out by Ukrainian forces, it again would still be the case that if the Russians hadn't invaded tens of thousands of people would still be alive and millions of people would still be in their homes. No matter what side someone comes down on, these are irrefutable facts.






    *which is even dafter when Russia's own state TV shows their tanks blasting Ukraine housing and their TicTok troops blasting away at empty buildings.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    I'm hoping the next 24 hours pass by without any dramatic news from Ukraine.

    With all civilians having now been removed from the Azovstal steel plant, and Putin's parade on the morrow, I cant help but worry about Putin's course of action for the fate of those brave soldiers and the numerous wounded left inside.

    I believe we are now at the pivotal point of this war. What Putin does next is going to be instrumental in telling us his mindset and plans for the longer term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Ceramic


    The question is how does this even begin to wind down?

    Russia appears to have quite literally gone mad. I don’t see the exit ramp.

    They’ve physically destroyed a country, displaced millions, killed certainly tens of thousands (and I suspect we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg on those numbers) and are making wild threats justified by some kind of weird paranoia and witch hunt hysteria.

    There's no logic to appeal to, so how does this end?

    I keep hearing these stories of how there’s some high level brilliant strategy behind this. It really doesn’t look like it. It just looks absolutely unhinged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Its an update. The tweet includes a video of the Son who survived detailing what happened in that brutal, bloody and evil attack on unarmed civilians by Russian "liberators"

    Hell couldn't be hot enough or eternity long enough for the evil cnuts who would do that and the countless other brutal murders of Ukrainian people, perpetrated by the Russians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,038 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Of course, but the fact that it is also western media picking it up and repeating it is a bit more serious than just ‘idiots’.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And yet they are the ones fighting to the death for Ukraine , most of the complaints about the AZOZ battalion comes from inside Russian controlled donbas ,the big bad Azoz did this and the big bad Azoz did that , what they really mean is the big bad Azoz have been fighting and holding off against the Russian military not just the last two months but the Last invasion 8 years ago they single handedly held the Russian military despite being out manned ,out gunned and lacking any real armour or heavy weapons.

    Some may go around waving flags and carrying torches , but they will go down in history as some of the bravest and toughest men and women to put on a military uniform anywhere in the world right now .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    I remember watching that footage when it hit twitter first. It was very hard to watch and heartbreaking. It left a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye. One of numerous crimes against civilians by the barbaric Russian invasion force.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Putin's speech sounds very similar to that rant by a woman on state TV I linked to a couple of days ago. She claimed that the EU and the US were trying to create a new "global Nazi empire" with Ukraine as the starting point of their mission.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    The Putster has wished "all Ukraine's inhabitants a peaceful and just future".



    If he was on boards.ie he'd have been banned for trolling



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  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The UNHCR has produced reports about the atrcoities by AZOV* for several years. Google OHCHR and AZOV*

    One of their more noteworthy achievements, noted by the UNHCR is torturing a man with intellectual disabilities for days on end. He's in a psychiatric institution now. Filthy neo-Nazis.

    BTW, changing the name from Azov to AZOZ won't beat the google algorithms, boards.ie poster Gatling.

    Obviously Russia is in the wrong and 'threw the first punch' in this conflict, but let's not play pretend or rewrite history, eh?



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