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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭dasdog


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    I agree, but I think that Ukraine has one thing that Russia does not have, and that is a population that is willing to fight for their rights. Also, as we have seen there are many foreign fighters willing to sign up.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Kirby more than implied that the ROVs had a significan't offensive capability:

    "Coastal defense is something that Ukraine has repeatedly said they’re interested in,’ Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters after the announcement of the weapons package. ...‘It is particularly an acute need now, as we see the Russians really refocus their efforts on the east and in the south’.‘And of course, when you talk about the east and the south, you’re talking about the Sea of Azov in a maritime environment and you’re talking about the northern Black Sea. So, these capabilities will be — we hope, helpful in their coastal defense needs,’...When reporters tried to get more detailed information, Kirby said, ‘I’m not going to promise you a newsletter, but I can promise that this deadly thing will work.’" https://root-nation.com/en/articles-en/weapons-en/en-unmanned-coastal-defence-vessels/

    The talk of coastal defence needs and a characterisation of 'deadly' mean these things definitely have a significant offensive capability, they are not just for surveilance and de-mining.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Amazing piece about the Ukrainians on the frontlines in Donbas


    Several hours earlier, in a cafe in the city of Dnipro, Dima shows me an image on his phone. Four bodies lie in the dirt. The image is grainy, but their ragged outlines are clear. Just 20 or so metres away, their comrades sit and eat. “It’s incredible,” says Dima. “​They’re eating lunch right by the decomposing bodies of their friends.” He continues: “I don’t understand the Russians. Sometimes they just drop the bodies of their mates into trenches. We found a grave of 15 bodies. They’d thrown a bit of dirt on them, but that was it. They don’t even respect their own people.

    I ask if he minds if I take photos of him. “Take as many photos as you want,” he replies. “I spit on these bastards.” He’s into his stride now. “Look at General Zhukov, the ‘Great Marshal’ who was just a butcher. The Russians are fighting like Zhukov. They send wave after wave but our guys figured out they fight just like Soviets. The tank commander is always in the first tank, so we shoot it. Once you shoot the first and last tanks, they’re immobilised.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yeah, any poor sod trying to heat their cottage in Connemara by digging and turning a few sods could have told him that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nukes do not detonate in a nuclear fashion in an accident or if they are intercepted before triggering. They might make a mess, if blown apart, but you can clean up messes more easily than raise the dead.

    If the Russians or US have trouble recovering lost warheads with their resources, I'm not even slightly concerned ISIS will have better success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    As mentioned previously, there was a few week gap with no indication the Ukrainians had any TB2s and all we got was footage from presumably modified heavy lift 6 rotor commercial drones dropping the printed fin modified anti-tank grenades from directly above, then suddenly they seemed to have them again, so I think they were down to one or two for a while before receiving a new shipment.

    Interesting the secrecy around the big drones dropping the grenades, there seems to be an absolute information embargo on those, likely so the suppliers can continue selling a surprising number of them them to the new media company with the insatiable demand for drones that can heft large video cameras, without the Orcs asking their Asian friends to have a word with Shenzen Heavy Friend Drone Company to stop selling them to certain customers.



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    Wouldn't fancy taking in more Russians if I were a neighbouring country. Doesn't seem the wisest.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Given they're more likely to be Russians who don't agree with this war and have a need to get out before while they can and have the means to do so, I'm not seeing the threat tbh.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Speaking of TB2s, it seems the Russians have a broken "cope" TB2 they carry around with them and reassemble to pretend it's another new downed TB2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭toyotatommy


    The noose has to be tightening in on Putin now.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Watch the video he linked. It's not quite that simple. B52 broke up in mid air releasing two H bombs; one thought it was still in the bomb bay and just fell, the other had its arm switch torn off and thought it was on a mission, drogue chutes deployed and it went through all the failsafes and was a go for bang. By pure dumb luck the very last failsafe switch was still in play and it didn't go off. The other bomb's last switch was set to arm. If pure dumb luck had gone the other way and that device's arm switch had been torn off then a large chunk of an American state would have been incinerated and because the other bombs switch was set to ground detonation the fallout would have poisoned a goodly chunk of the eastern US all the way to New York.

    These days it's less likely as protocols will have hopefully been tightened up on both sides. Plus before both sides got a handle on rocketry, the constant bombers in the air 24/7/365 carrying way more nuclear weapons was far riskier as they were essentially autonomous and an accident could have too easily caused a detonation. If there is an accident today or in the future I'd bet it would be one of those mobile launchers.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You're giving them a huge amount of benefit of the doubt. Do you think the ones who went to the middle east did so out of solidarity with the Ukrainians? They're doing it for their own personal financial benefit, that's the only principle they give a **** about. Haven't seen any protests from the Russians in Abu Dhabi. Nor the thousands upon thousands of young professionals who've gone elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    More explosions in Transnistria. The Kremlin possibly gearing up for some sort of action over there or at least leaving the door open.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    May require exercising some imagination until a more realistic likeness can be found, hopefully soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭wandererz


    The concerning bit is how many Russian agents were part of that lot in order to further embed themselves in Europe and using this to gain a guise of legitimacy.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There is that. But, what about our Russian friends living in Ireland and Germany etc and their love of Z paraphernalia? Seems they like getting away from Russia, but still have many abhorrent Russian tendencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    So there was a safety device and it worked. Typical left of PC BBC. One would hope that lessons were learned and that the current stuff that is fielded and comprise the relevant subject matter, are better engineered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,061 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Russians want out of Russia, they can go to Georgia, Armenia or Kazakhstan. Until this situation gets resolved, I don't think civilised Europe should be welcoming any more of them, no matter how well-intentioned they might seem to be. We (Europe) are not the level of being at war with Russia, exactly, but not far below it at all.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sorry. I went off script. All Russians are scumbag orcs. That better? Some are understandably hoping that fires going off in Russia are examples of resistance. Well if they are, who's starting them? Magical fairy people? Christ the level of simple minded, often paranoid "thinking" that goes on in this thread beggars belief at times. Well, not really. But for an accident of birth the same simple minded thinking would be calling Ukrainians black magic drug addict Jewish nazis.

    You do understand there might be a bit of a difference between those Russians who left the place years ago for all sorts of reasons and the sudden jump in those leaving since this war kicked off and how they might be different? You do understand that Russia is an autocratic police state and that most of those who did leave recently leave family behind, family that the Kremlin junta might target? When the same Russian authorities are arresting grannies who were born amidst the smoking ruins of Leningrad and people just holding up blank pieces of paper it's hardly too surprising those who got out recently might be a little wary of sticking their heads above the parapet, especially in countries that are somewhat "friendly" to the Kremlin. If anything those fleeing the place now are more likely to be anti Kremlin because they've lived it on a daily basis than those mostly older types who left years ago and are more likely to still harbour feelings for the "old country" at a remove.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I have to disagree. I think if Natasha wanted to move to the EU, she and those like her should be welcome.

    Perhaps some vetting would be in order so those who can show even an inkling of not being too happy with present day Russia should be exempted. All those arrested for protests, for example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    Feasible outcome of Putin's upcoming op.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,453 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I'd be the opposite, welcome them, give them a voice (subject to security checks of course).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    While I agree with alot of your posts Wibbs, this whole 'accident of birth' stuff is way to overused, and frankly irrelevant.

    Is the equivalent of saying 'if u grandad had tits he'd be your granny. '

    Dopey at best.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    For an artist it's must be twice harder to be a soldier. Artist are more sensitive souls...




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    We are past the 25K milestone.

    Due to the sanctions and embargos, they can't make new tanks and probably a lot more materiel, besides those.



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