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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Nope, it really doesn't. That whole story was cooked up in the 1960's and 70's in the midst of the popularity for UFO stuff and the intewebs added to it. There is zero evidence of it otherwise. It's based on the German's leaps in "wonder weapon" tech like jets, rockets and the like during the war that the Allies, especially the US grabbed after the war(Operation paperclip) and the idea the Americans kept the really secret stuff back. Germany had been looking at the atom bomb in a remarkably small way, but were many years behind getting close to it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,662 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Would agree they definitely need to be watched carefully and pressured.

    For the best if they are left out of the stuff like the weapons supplies to Ukraine anyway. I think Orbán probably wants to be like a Hungarian "Putin" (have that level of dictatorial power and control in his own country) but I'd say Putin's usefulness to him or his party may have declined since the invasion and the increasing isolation of Russia from the West.

    His/Hungary's potential usefulness to Putin/Russia has gone up a good bit though. If Hungary can slow and disrupt EU sanctions (they are already doing that to an extent), or pass Russia information about what is going on inside the EU/NATO high level discussions or even (at a stretch...don't know if they'd be brave enough to do this? - edit: would need something sizeable in return off Russia too!) try to obstruct and delay Finland and Sweden joining NATO that would be a great help for Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Kremlin Clare up to her old tricks.

    Sanctions are the real villain of the piece apparently, and of course NATO provoked this by...not offering a membership action plan for Ukraine???

    Tick-tock, times nearly up on your political career Clare. I hope she can play the spoons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I'm confused about Spew Tin's rumoured impending medical procedure.

    If it's anything other than minor surgery, he won't make the 9th May Charade.

    If he does make the 9th May Charade, it can only have been minor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Jesus, Billy K making sense.


    What's next, Danny Healy Rea installing solar panels?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    If the best 'source' is the NY Post perhaps we should just ignore such rumours. Much as we would like them to be true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It's obvious that she has far more hatred for NATO and the West than she has for Russia (and keep in mind that she's making these comments even after Kremlin TV threatened to drop nuclear weapons on Ireland).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    No no, I've seen the documentaries - all about how that nice American archaeologist Dr. I. Jones, and even his father, got the better of the Nazis on at least two occasions. The Nazis thought they had the Ark of the Covenant, and the Holy Grail, so they definitely believed some mystical nonsense.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sadly, I think in a proportional representation (still the best system) she'll have enough loons to keep her in MEP clover. You'd think all this bat shizzle crazy stuff she spouts will make her look like a buffon, it will, but to some it's like 'she's the only one making sense' - there's no such thing as bad publicity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭20silkcut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Sorry that's , Jewish Nazi drug addled wiccan Ukrainians if you please , 🤔

    But don't worry cause they've all become soft ,pluralist western leaning liberals so they won't last more than a few days against the mighty Russian traditionalists ... Oh , well , ahem ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I'd say that its more than likely that they are taking drugs to reach the levels of fantasia they are at.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Many of the people who support loons, actually set their beliefs and principles on what the loon says.

    If one of these loons made a speech today that George Soros conspired to invent the moon by launching a big ball cheese from an EU cheese mountain into space, the supporters would be on here tomorrow giving out and telling us why said loon is the only one talking sense about the waste of launching cheese into space when there are starving people in Africa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I think lack of opposition in the country and and lack of a free press is contributing a lot to their nuttiness. When you have literally no opposition and no criticism of anything you do or say, then the most extreme and bonkers of opinions become the norm e.g. "let's nuke Berlin, Paris, London and New York......that will really show them".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    Lack of street marches in Russia in support of the 'special operation' is very telling.

    Post edited by Finnbar01 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Unlikely. Her position is so fringe, cartoonish and ridiculous that her career is toast.

    Dublin constituency is a competitive one - she's done for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick



    I quoted an article in good faith. At no point did I say it was the "best source".

    If you can relay information from elsewhere that you don't class as "rumours", and shouldn't be "just ignored", then please do tell us. Otherwise don't deride what other posters share, and keep your sarcasm to yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    ukranians pushing back in Kharkiv

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Probably the regieme isnt organizing "spontaneous" protests for fear of them getting hijacked by an anti-war agenda ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    For sure there has been opposition to Putin, for most of his political life, there are two kinds. The "Allowed opposition" which gives the façade of a democratic society. And a genuine opposition which is forced underground, but which is now apparently making its present felt in the form of many mysterious fires etc. From the "tame" opposition, Putin has no fear, they are harmless to him. Any serious contenders are jailed, or eliminated, Navalny being a current example. As for anyone expressing opposition to the " limited Military Action" on TV Radio or Newspapers....not a hope. So Putin's propaganda machine are free to spew any nonsense they like to the world, but especially the home audience. Question is, how many Russians believe it? Seems like there are many who do, too many in fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Or could it be that ordinary Russians are now so terrified of showing any kind public opinion, thinking that they might be mistaken for an opposition march and arrested, facing fines and 15 years prison? When you see an elderly lady being arrested for holding a daffodil on the street, that's the kind of paranoia facing anyone who "steps out" as it were. You would be nearly afraid of holding up your hand to stop a taxi on the street in Moscow at the moment. Of course, it could also be that a majority do not support what's happening in Ukraine, but I doubt that, at the moment anyway, but even so, there has to be serious doubts creeping in about the Govt narrative.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sincerely hope I'm wrong. She was a bit of a loon to begin with and STILL



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Something very heavy went overhead about half an hour ago. Nothing on flight radar 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    From the RTE article..

    She said that "escalating the conflict with more arms and more sanctions and giving Russia, if you like, nowhere to go, but to escalate, is not in the interest of anybody in Ukraine".

    Eh, they could go home no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Any sign that the 155mm howitzers have entered the battle yet?

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick



    Russia is now nothing but a brutal military dictatorship under the leadership of Putin. Outside of his inner circle and the selected few in the bigger cities, the rest of the country is treated with utter contempt and disdain. I'd go as far as to say he's as bad as Pol Pot was in Cambodia.

    You're right when you say people are absolutely terrified, including those closest to him. Civil liberties simply don't exist in any manner or form in Russia. I believe the majority of the country are against war in Ukraine but there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.

    He's taken Russia backwards faster than trash down a garbage chute. I think at some stage he will be taken out by his own, and not before time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    I know you're absolutely dying to take offence but there's none intended, or sarcasm either.

    The NY Post is a rag. Up there with the Daily Mail or the Express.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I've heard that even pro Putin and pro war protests and marches are banned in Russia, as the authorities are terrified of any type of street demonstration (they think that if they allow them, this would immediately embolden anti Putin and anti war people to take to the streets). We're talking about a Grade 1 dictatorship, nothing spontaneous is allowed.



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