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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Oil and Gas prices globally are set in US $. Pricing in Roubles is just a side-show. No logic to the argument that somehow pricing in Roubles makes energy more expensive for Western importers, apart from second-order things like greater hedging costs, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭maebee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Mobilisation by Putin would be an admission of failure. However he could still do it. It would also be a high risk strategy. If he pushes untrained soldiers into the battle front there will be serious losses. Can he put the logistics in place to train, arm and move these untrained troops to the front. I am not buying that he can leave these troops at the rear. The existing army is largely made up of one year conscripts not released after duty.

    If he sends untrained and unequipped troops into the battle front his losses will be steep. We already know that the regular army struggles for NCO's to drive the army forward. Where will he gets these in a mass mobilisation

    This is turning into a technology war. If the Ukraine gets air defences and the mobile guided howitzer platforms in place losses in Russian troops would be horrific.

    If the figures are true for tank losses unless the RU army send a mixed bag of older and newer tanks it has lost 50% of its more modern tanks. It has lost a couple thousand APC's. I just cannot see what mobilisation will achieve.

    I would not discount a coup. It was mass mobilisation by the Tsar and sending poorly trained and equipped soldiers with no leadership that caused the Bolshevik Revolution. Actually the Bolsheviks just piggybacked onto it.

    The next week will tell a story one way or the other for better or worse. If the Russian advanced start to crumble and there are setbacks then any possible mobilisation would be doomed to failure IMO

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Advisor to the office of President of Ukraine: At first, anti-Semitic statements by Moscow, now massive missile strikes on Ukrainian cities. Lviv, Vinnytsia, Kirovohrad, Zakarpattia. Russia must be recognized as a sponsor of terrorism. There is less and less difference between the Kremlin and ISIS, even on a verbal level


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    When countries fail you get to see the true side of Human nature. When Rump czechoslovakia fell in 1939 all the surrounding countries took a chunk including Poland and Hungary. Likewise when Poland fell later that year Russia took their chunk and I think Slovakia and Hungary got minor chunks too. No doubt Putin would offer Hungary a chunk of Ukraine if he could and get concessions in return like move his army through Hungarian territory link up with the Serbs etc.



  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes they do. Especially if they are an older "breeder" type reactor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭TheRepentent




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    genuine question, has any side ever been as well militarily & financially supported as ukraine in this war? as bad as the russian army has been compared to what was expected, surely a lot must have to do with the huge backing from other countries



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    They make material that can be ultimately refined into fissile material. They are absolutely nowhere near making what is necessary for a nuclear weapon on their own. And if they were putting together labs with centrifuges etc necessary for that refinement it would be a) well known by Western governments and b) not remotely supported to the point of probably cutting off aid.

    Ukraine have not bodged together a couple of nuclear weapons, it is fantasy to think that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Foreign backing has been vital, but it's just one factor. Other factors include the extraordinary resolve/moral in the country to fight, the survival of the Ukrainian leadership, and their experience and preparation stemming from 8 years of war with Russia and it's proxies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Ceramic


    On a technical point. It depends.

    The VVER reactors, which are the only type now used in Ukraine are pressurised water, light water moderated reactors, very similar to American or French PWR reactors and those used in most places, and they do not produce plutonium.

    The RMBK reactors, which are graphite moderated - the type used at Chernobyl had dual purpose and can produce weapons grade plutonium. This was one of the reasons for the extremely comprised design. So can British gas cooled, graphite moderated reactors. North Korea actually got its weapons grade plutonium by building an old British design that was rather idiotically made public knowledge online as it was an obsolete design, but for a country with limited technical resources, a 1950s design was ideal and was used.

    All that being said, it’s extremely unlikely that Ukraine would have any kind of nuclear weapons.

    They had soviet weapons located there until they agreed to hand them back to Russia, in exchange for a guarantee the Budapest Memorandum (1994), sponsored by the USA and UK.

    France and China also offered formal assurances, China’s are a bit weaker but something that it needs to be very heavily reminded of.

    • ”The Chinese Government has constantly opposed the practice of exerting political, economic or other pressure in international relations. It maintains that disputes and differences should be settled peacefully through consultations on an equal footing. Abiding by the spirit of the Sino-Ukrainian joint communiqué of January 4, 1992 on the establishment of diplomatic relations, the Sino-Ukrainian joint communiqué of October 31, 1992 and the Sino-Ukrainian joint statement of September 6, 1994, China recognizes and respects the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, and stands ready to further develop friendly and cooperative Sino-Ukraine relations on the basis of the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence.”


    It’s also worth noting that while Ukraine physically hosted those weapons, it never had control of them as they were electronically controlled from Moscow.

    Post edited by Ceramic on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,061 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Orban did anything of the sort, Hungary would be booted out of the EU, and although Orban likes to talk tough with the EU and it's a platform he runs on, Hungarians are majority in favour of being in the EU and would be p*ssed to lose the privileges EU membership affords. Becoming the land bridge between Slavic lands and having an economic alliance with Russia would be a poor, poor consolation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It's far from clear that the Russians even know what a "Nazi" is. It seems to be a catch all insult they hurl at anyone who they feel dislikes Putin and his regime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    They could bribe someone in the Russian army to sell one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Ceramic


    It would actually make a lot of sense to put a couple of billion euro or dollars down as a massive bribe to get Russian soldiers to defect.

    A lump sum and a visa, if they pass some security checks.

    Could be extremely cost effective too.

    Ukraine was doing some of that but perhaps propping it up with a lot more funds might work …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,061 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I think a vague definition is the aim. Makes it easier to label one's enemies. If the Wagner group is anything to go by, Russia doesn't actually have a problem with Nazis, as long as they're Russian Nazis and are willing to kill Ukrainians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Interesting speech after his re-election. Specifically took a dig at Ukraine and Zelensky. It is somewhere in this report but the whole report is interesting anyway. You man Klepper does a good job at what he does.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    You can't blame it. There was a lad on a Massey Ferguson coming in the other direction and he panicked



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭storker


    My daughter just asked me if Russia is going to bomb Ireland - she's always been a bit of a worrier. I reassured her that Putin won't. "Are you sure he definitely won't?" FFS. She's supposed to be excited about an overnight school trip tomorrow and instead she's fretting over the country being taken out by that tiny-cocked cu_nt in the Kremlin.

    Small beer I know compared to what kids in Ukraine are going through, but still.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    It'd definitely not true to say that Sweden is full of Nazis...........it's fairly sparsely populated overall. They have loads of room for more should they want them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭storker


    There must be no Russian equivalent of the saying, "When you're in a hole, stop digging."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    These already exist. Up to a million dollars for a Russian defecting with a jet or warship, and up to 100k for a tank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo



    German DZ Bank has restarted banking transactions with Russia.

    "It's just little transactions- sure what harm?"

    🤬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,096 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    A big scroll back in the timeline to find the video clip which is in Orc, hence my not linking: https://t.me/operativnoZSU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo



    What a truly beautiful and intelligent lady

    " We are witnessing the mass killings of civilians"...

    "We have no right to remain silent otherwise we become accomplices to this killing"

    And that is true of all of us.

    To the presenter Vira Hyrych who was killed in the Russian bombing of her home and who broadcast this ladies account of the attack on Mariupol ~ RIP

    Post edited by Mecanudo on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,134 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    If you go back my original point was that a poster was comparing russian behaviour to that of the nazi Germans in how they looted and plundered. In fact everything here seems to be brought back to a comparison to the Nazis, it's as if they invented plundering behaviour during conquest.

    I was pointing out (and certainly not excusing in any way shape or form) that plundering sadly has been a part of conquest since the dawn of humanity. And the Russians won't be the last.



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