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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,897 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Doing the same tricks with the tanks, keep the cross-hair just off the target till the last second to prevent countermeasures until it's too late!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    IMG_20220430_235709_311.jpg

    "Flag and coat of arms in place 💪

    Mariupol - Unbreakable!

    Glory to Ukraine! 🇺🇦"


    "A unique video from the latest street fights in the Azovstal region.

    "There was an occupier and there is no occupier. They will say again - no losses.

    Our defenders are the best. They are turning the Russian military elite into fertilizer, "said Petro Andryushchenko, an adviser to the mayor of Mariupol."


    "Mariupol

    Congratulations on the Day of the Border Guard from the Chief of the 1st Border Detachment, Colonel Valery Paditel.

    Glory of the Nation 🇺🇦

    Death to enemies 🔥"


    You are in the wrong thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    2 points --

    Why might climate change (global warming presumably) be a blessing?

    Who has chosen iPhones over clean water? are you sure they haven't chosen iPhones AND clean water over clean water alone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I think they are separate. As you mention Lend-lease speeds up the delivery of arms without congress approval for each item.

    But the funding bill, would still need congress approval for arms sales, thus slowing arms deliveries down.

    I'm thinking the lend-lease is the quick solution to get stuff to Ukraine now, the funding bill will be spread out over months. This is when Ukraine will be 'buying' state of the art NATO equipment for long term use.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I'm doing my best not to slate you here, but what is it you want to communicate?

    Apart from being covered in angry splittle, precisely zero of what you posted has any coherency.

    You, apparently have access to a secret stash of 'unbiased' sources that aren't tainted by CIA psy-ops propaganda. Lay it on us - what's the big reveal?

    If you're not a Putinversteher and bristle at the suggestion, what exactly else are you doing only giving his paranoid visions a belly rub and trying to sell it to us on the forum?

    You say you don't care, don't want to debate, yet are wearing your fingers to bloody little stumps on your keyboard with frankly unhinged rants.

    What exactly is going on with you and what are you trying to say?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    My son has Aspergers and the friend staying with him here is autistic. Both managed to get tertiary degrees.

    I see it a bit like that German animal park that recently renamed a pig called Putin, because they didn't consider any pig desrved to be named after that swine. https://news.yahoo.com/pig-formerly-known-putin-gets-060842488.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo



    "You and Wibb accuse me of lying, of being pro-Russian and being ignorant but expect me to keep talking to you?"

    Lol. No absolutely not. I'd actually prefer of you didn't keep repeating absolute bolclocks.

    But where exactly in my comment do I say you are "lying"? I'd suggest your comments are certainly more akin to fiction and certainly deluded but no I've not said anywhere you are "lying".

    Are you pro-Russian? from your comments here - I'd say you most certainly are.

    This is personal to me, more than you can imagine. Thus you/Wibb are more annoying than you can imagine

    Well lots of things like the murder of innocent woman and children by murdering Russian scum in Ukraine is very personal to them. That you find other posters pointing out that your comments so far have been complete garbage "annoying" is noted. But the only one who can control your personal foibles is yourself.

    Can't you just for a second ask yourselves why BBC did it? I read BBC, IT, NYT, Spiegel and other manipulated media mainly to know what the likes of you and Wibb think

    BTW I believe its "Wibbs" not "Wibb". And bar posting on boards.ie I can't account for his posts nor he of mine 🤪

    I really couldn't give a sh**te what you're reading. And as I don't subscribe to "BBC, IT, NYT, Spiegel and other manipulated media". So unless you're a bone fide clairvoyant - you don't have a notion what "the likes of" anyone here thinks.

    "I consider it to be my duty to look for the truth and I don't appreciate disingenuity nor being accused of it."

    If you are "looking for the truth" you're obviously looking in all the wrong places. Russia has an abysmal Environmental record. Plus they are some of the biggest warmongers in the history of the modern world. Look it up. You blaming only NATO members for everything is just too hillarious for words my friend.

    BTW I never mentioned the BBC. The paper on Environmental degradation in Russia I linked to, may not be the "BBC", but it is well researched and has lots and lots of academic references. Lots of other academic studies on the shitfeist that is the Soviet Union and its abysmal Environmental record. May I suggest you go educate yourself and stop spreading pro Russian bs?

    And you can check I have not "labeled anyone as an Putinversteher. I believe that is a German phrase no? I don't think anyone has used that here. Odd.

    OMG! OK, I admit: Russians are evil by nature. They eat their children. I am Putin's spy trying to influence you to subvert the ROI and win the war...

    Sure. If you say so...

    Bye 👋

    Ps. I don't have an IPhone. My water quality is fine btw.

    Pity all those Russians and their lovely Apple products 😪

    https://www.indy100.com/viral/russian-man-smashes-ipad-sanctions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    A. You're threadbanned

    B. Abby Martin is a a former Russia Today mouthpiece who thinks that 9/11 was an inside job. Anyone who clicks a link like that may as well be listening to Jim Corr

    C. You're threadbanned

    D. You're threadbanned



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    I think you're right that they are separate; but what I'm saying is that I don't think Biden intends to actually use the lend-lease act. Or at least if it is used its more likely to be by US companies than by the government directly; certainly in the short to medium term.

    For example the $33 billion Bill in front of Congress includes "Presidential Drawdown" authority: which basically means providing equipment directly from Department of Defence to Ukraine. Why would this be needed if they were planning on using lend-lease authority?

    Also I think the Bill is intended to put a cap on US spending for the Russo-Ukraine War through to the end of the US fiscal year on September 30th. In other words they're using it as a mini-budget to set out their planned expenditure for eastern Europe and Ukraine.

    Just my entirely non-expert read on the situation; no idea if it's accurate or not.



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The head of the PSL talks with a conspiracy theorist from RT USA, who believes 9/11 was an inside job and flouride is a plot for government control via poison. Yeah sounds about right for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    My pet theories of gloom and fail?

    I'll believe it when I see an F16 skinned in Ukrainian camo flying off an Ukranian airfield within 2 months.

    The US wouldn't even facilitate Baltic mig fighters being gifted to the US for them to supply to Ukraine, but they will gift Ukraine F16's all of a sudden because of a bill passed in congress?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I have no clue, but I assume lend lease has some restrictions, like any equipment not vital to US defense can be gifted to a non hostile country.

    So any old tech can be given.

    The 33bil could be more to do with modern systems which would specifically be sold to NATO countries/very close allies (Israel etc...) and would require some oversight.

    It's definitely more complex than we think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,778 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Absolute lol at the "western biased media" angle that claims Reuter, BBC, etc are completely untrustworthy, partisan operations.

    As opposed to Russian state TV, which tells the population that Zelenskyy is a drug addicted Nazi jew overseeing the persecution of Russia speaking people in Donbas who are, at the moment, ironically and quite cruelly being blasted to pieces by Russian artillery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Military channels have been claiming Ukrainian pilots have been training on F-16s and the UAF have categorically denied it as recently as today at https://www.facebook.com/kpszsu:

    Military pilots are not yet studying abroad on the F-16, no matter how much we all want it. No official statement on this issue was published in the media!

    The latest information from the Pentagon on air defence as of 29th April would also appear to nix NASAMS or Patriot:

    QUESTION: I guess what I'm trying to figure out, though, is do you -- do you expect that the U.S. is going to start giving the Ukrainians some U.S. air defense systems, advanced air defense systems?

    SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: There's no -- there's no active discussion about that right now, other than -- other than, of course, Stingers, short-range air defense. But in the long term -- in the -- in long-range air defense, what we are focused on, as the secretary said, was on helping them get the kinds of systems that they -- that they know how to use effectively and -- and are familiar with, and I don't have any indications that -- that right now, we're prepared to go beyond that.

    Somehow I doubt the rest of the list is any more accurate; although M109s wouldn't be a surprise even if they're not the Paladin variant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    I reckon if it's re-regs they must be on overtime rates for tonight anyway.

    Either that or it's the old theory of a whole bunch of monkeys somewhere in cyberspace randomly hitting the keys of a keyboard.

    Based on the quality of comments posted by them, I'm going for the second theory for the moment anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    If you need to shout, you're already on the back foot

    This seems to have been done with no fuss at all

    https://youtu.be/bmmSDY-dtLY



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The British Foreign Office said on Sunday Russia is using a troll factory to spread disinformation about the war in Ukraine on social media and target politicians across a number of countries including Britain and South Africa, Reuters reports.

    Can't say I've noticed this happening 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This is a common theme with the Russian public in interviews on the street. They're convinced that the western audience is being subjected to propaganda and fake news about Russia and the war. What they don't realise is that people in the west have access to multiple news sources from many countries and can even tune in to what the Russian media are saying about the war.

    Russian media coverage is shockingly threadbare by comparison - lots of stuff about the politics of the situation and the sanctions and so on but they don't wish to discuss Russian military or Ukrainian civilian losses i.e. the gruesome things you associate with a war.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,446 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    OK @BurgerFace, you've have been told repeatedly that you are threadbanned from this thread. You have had 2 forum bans for breaching this yet here you are again. I think you've wasted enough mod time at this stage

    You are permanently banned from the CA forum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭dybbuk


    Climate change, while catastrophic, will lead to the extinction of some/many species on Earth but not life as such or life as we know it. It might however lead to the extinction of humans or at least curb destructive human activity (or even cause a rethinking of humans) and, after a few million years, the planet, while somewhat different, will flourish again. However, without such catastrophic event, humans are unlikely to change their behavior and some of their activities might cause a complete extinction or, more likely, a near complete destruction of life.

    The first suspect to cause this would be persistent organic pollutants. Studies show that the amount of plastic already in the environment might, once it disintegrates to nano-particles, will change the chemical composition of the environment that all, or nearly all life will become impossible.

    So, if we were to disappear today, maybe only the more complex organisms will, over time, be extinct. But, if we survive another 20 years, maybe we will have produced enough plastic, chemical, bio-chemical, radioactive etc waste that will then inevitably lead to the extinction of all multicellular or just all organisms.

    But of course climate change might instead prompt the civilization to produce more harmful material much faster or even destroy all life through nuclear, chemical etc war in a few days or hours. Still, it appears that without any catastrophic event we will destroy all life inescapably. (Again, eventually it will probably re-appear, but it might take billions of years and it might not be at all like the life I cherish).

    As to the second point: it was just a metaphor I used in one of my previous posts and it makes much less sense taken out of context. What I meant is that the demand for artifacts blinds humans to the fact that they have nearly destroyed the basis of their existence. I absolutely did not mean to single out iPhones as being particularly harmful. I picked iPhones only because Apple was among the first to discontinue operating in Russia and is also the biggest company on the planet and i picked water because it is the most basic of the things we need. I could have just as well picked BMWs vs air.

    I'll find a couple of inks to illustrate my thoughts.

    Global human-made mass exceeds all living biomass | Nature

    Humans just 0.01% of all life but have destroyed 83% of wild mammals – study | Wildlife | The Guardian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Weirdest justification from a Putin bot I've heard that nuclear annihilation of humans is a good thing for the planet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Just wondering in regards the video uploaded yesterday with the drone footage with the bomb falling through the sunroof of the car. What way does it work as the Russian soldiers were injured and you can make it out in the video and they were i presume going off to get medical attention and were taken out in the car and killed, the drone operator would of known this. I mean for example if it was a soldier shot and was trying to get away or heal/bandage himself and the enemy just walked over and shot him dead known perfectly well what he was doing or am I missing something with drones that they may know clearly what it happening on the ground and in that case would of known the soldiers were injured. Can they just keep up the kill factor and get them or is that a crime? Just more wondering in future wars will this be a thing, you injure an enemy with a drone and clearly see there down or trying to make there way outta the Battlefield and you finish them off still. Like I presume if you were a soldier and say you were shot and your there bandaging yourself up and a soldier came along and saw you and shot you it's a crime, is it not technically the same with a drone with the operator finishing someone off like that. Just curious on the rules as such in that scenario with drone operators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Very interesting comment and thanks for the eloquent explanation.

    Would you be so good as to explain your previous post in relation to "NATO members" having a bad "environmental record" as compared to lets say Russia and its forerunner the USSR and the relevance of that to the present Invasion of Ukraine?

    Look at the environmental record of NATO members! The empire, our democratic role model, leads the way to not just mass suicide, but a complete destruction of life as we know it through chemical pollution.

    Stop blaming the Russians! You are your own worst enemy! Your greed, your righteousness, your anxiety, fake sense of belonging, entitlement and more greed is what poisons your mind. You will win nothing by debating with me. And I will not debate for it solves nothing. It's either dialectics, violence or deceit. Debate is only a part of the latter: mainly self-deceit in fact. Once you twist my words, it is no longer dialectics. So I won't waste my time, unless of course you learn.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Unless an enemy combatant is in custody or surrendering they are fair game - just because they are bandaging themselves and just as likely to shoot you doesn't mean they aren't fair game

    Convention protects wounded and infirm soldiers and medical personnel who are not taking active part in hostility against a Party

    I didn't see them raise their hands or wave a white flag



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I saw a couple of ex-US military people suggesting online that this gruesome video was heading into war crime territory i.e. injured soldiers being evacuated coming under attack....they felt it was bad form to keep on attacking

    I can't help thinking also that people like the drone operator will be candidates for PTSD after the war ends. War is a horrendous and disgusting thing and having to kill people must do a lot of damage to the psyche. Large numbers of men returned from WW2 with bad PTSD and never really recovered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    OK that's fair but I mean with drones you can be a fair bit from the front line and been attacked, it's not like you can surrender to a drone fair enough to an enemy combatant you can. I mean with a drone would you realise your getting attacked by a drone, those lads might of thought it was a mortar round or the likes. Just wonder down the line in future conflicts will there be some sort of rules be made in regards to drones with enemy that are injured. Is it going to be your injured we will finish you off even if ure limbs are blown off you or will there be rules set in place as soldiers might not realise that a drone has done the damage on them that once a drone operator sees they are injured they can't or should not engage them further. If there on about in future drones been fully AI will it just be built into them kill enemy combatants at all cost and take no prisoners even if you see some enemy soldier leaving the field of battle injured to whatever extent or on the Battlefield say more or less dying but another bomb/missile launched at him/her to finish them off for good measure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Good questions and this war has shown how drones can really be an effective war machine

    But these are still soldiers on enemy ground - at what point do you say they are wounded beyond the capacity to keep fighting? Just because a drone wounded them doesn't make them any less a threat to those they are waging war against

    As the Geneva Convention says if they are taking part in aggressive action against another state then they do not fall under their rules - not like Russia is even upholding the convention from their side



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,925 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The first known case I can think of of a unit surrendering to a drone was in 1991. (And according to the Smithsonian, it was the earliest they know of troops surrendering to a drone as well). Iraqi troops on Failaka island surrendered to an RQ-2A Pioneer from USS Wisconsin (Battleship with very, very big guns)



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