Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Yeah your comments certainly seem to align with someone whose parents are "Ukrainian" all right. Especially that you seek to excuse the real "guilty party" ie Russia's invasion of Ukraine and its ongoing ethnic cleansing of Ukrainian people.

Not only do you seem to have basic issues with geo politics, in not being able to identify Ukraine as a sovereign nation which is currently fighting for it's survival, but you also appear to be gung ho blaming the invasion on everyone else but Russia.

I see history is certainly not one of your strong points either.

You will find if you check, that Russia and Germany invaded Poland and between them started WW2

The invasion of Poland was an attack on the Republic of Poland by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union which marked the beginning of World War II. The German invasion began on 1 September 1939, one week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact between Germany and the Soviet Union, and one day after the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union had approved the pact. The Soviets invaded Poland on 17 September. The campaign ended on 6 October with Germany and the Soviet Union dividing and annexing the whole of Poland under the terms of the German–Soviet Frontier Treaty. The rest is history

Or how about the brutal invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union in 1979?

On Christmas Eve 1979, the Soviet Union began an invasion of Afghanistan, its Central Asian neighbor to the south. First, it air-dropped troops into principal Afghan cities. Soon after, it deployed motorized divisions across the border. Within days, the KGB, which had infiltrated the Afghan presidential palace, poisoned the president and his ministers, helping launch a Moscow-backed coup to install a new puppet leader, Babrak Karmal. The invasion triggered a brutal, nine-year-long Afghan civil war.

By the time the last Soviet troops pulled out in early 1989, rumbling back across the ironically named “Friendship Bridge,” the conflict had cost the lives of an estimated 1 million civilians and some 125,000 Afghan, Soviet and other combatants.

The war wreaked havoc not only on Afghanistan, but on the Soviet Union, whose economy and national prestige took a severe kicking. The military misadventure contributed significantly to the USSR’s later collapse and breakup.

Any of those inconvenient facts sound at all familiar to you. No?

Btw absolutely love the childish threats to get your friends to drop "hydrogen bombs" on those who you disagree with on boards! 😅🤣😂

Looks like Wibbs is now on the Russian naughty list lol.

Try to understand that I am not defending Russia here! IMO there is no such thing!

"Russia" does not actually exist. Russians exist, the land does. A nation is a concept I personally don't like subscribing to. And many people dying there now wouldn't, if they could at all avoid it. But the Russian soldiers are sent there, the Ukrainian are not allowed to leave.

The USSR was a terrible construct, but it's gone. And it wasn't defeated. It evolved on its own and spun off it's lands pretty much on its own accord as well. The Russian society has made a lot of progress. There is/was a middle class now, a foundation for healthier society. But it is still Russia and the elite considers itself a superpower. They hated MGorbatchov for letting the republics go. He believed what NATO promised him: that they will not expand eastwards.

It looks now like this elite was right. It seems that they weren't only more cynical but actually shrewder than MG. But, hoping to be accepted, even Putin was so naive to trust the West. He did complain about them, protesting for over 20 years!! But the USA kept pushing the NATO on "him". They new exactly what they were doing. And they won: Putin lost hope. He did what he had to do, backed by the Duma and the people of Russia. The outcome was predicted and desired by the US. Russia weekend, literally "bled out", isolated, divided, middle class destroyed, catastrophic brain drain.

The EU are absolute fools. They followed Mark Wahlberg into the sunset here, which might very well turn out nuclear.... But MW is safe in America far far away, while we have a war between the biggest and the second biggest countries on our continent.

That is my main point really.

Yes, terrible country Russia. Terrible country China. But they just might be the lesser evil. Without them, we'll be ruled by the CIA.

Radiaoactive pollution, while terrible, pales in comparison to Persistent Organic Pollutants. The plastic already in the environment, once it disintegrates, will likely destroy life as we know it. (Apart from nuclear war) That is the biggest threat to our existence, and not just our. (For I represent all life that is no human. It is my obligation as "reasonable mammal" if you like.) Climate change might actually be a blessing. But that's a whole other discussion.

And Grozniy? Come on! What about Iran vs Iraq, Guatemala, Chile etc? When people of dark skin died, no one in Ireland cared. And yes I am Irish. And yes I know what kind of a man Putin is.

I repeat:

If the NATO had kept their promise to MG and had listened to the head of state of former USSR complaining, people wouldn't be dying. Even if they had promised it in February, no shot would have been fired. I am sure of that. Putin is nothing like Hitler. It is not about "good" or "bad". It isn't a kindergarten anymore.

Russia is a fact. Putin is fact. Bad facts if you like. I don't care. But by supporting the expansion of the NATO you:

1) Become guilty of mass murder which what every war is.

And:

2) Become guilty of weakening the opposition to the empire. That will get you more iPhones and Netflix of course. But, be careful what you wish for! For it might just kill your grand/children! It sure will enslave them...

Finally, while it is OK to compare Putin to Stalin or whatever it is that rocks your boat, it is a really bad tone to use words like "Russian Nazis". In fact it is quite similar to people saying "Israeli Nazis". Yes, Russian Nazis do exist, as do Israeli Nazis (and Belorussian Nazis a I presume??). But consider that pretty much no soldiers in the Ukraine actually are Nazis and that (, apart from the Jews, Roma Belorussians) no other nation suffered that much because of Nazism. It is an even greater faux pas for an Irish. If you don't know why, you shouldn't even be reading this thread.

I found no conversation partners in this thread: either too ignorant, too narrow-minded or too rude and too stubborn to apologize. I am out of here. Terrible forum this.

Who is this guy

Two One out of three ain't bad

Those Russians on RT and marching about are truly up the creek of madness. Their arrogance is almost psychotic. History will record them for what they are. A bunch of maniacs going down the tubes. I fully intend on booking a motorbike holiday in the Ukraine after they declare victory against the invaders from Moscow.

Here's some filtration:

"Horde bastards kill Ukrainian prisoners: they sent the mother of a captured Ukrainian soldier a photo of a dead son.

The mother said that Dan was surrounded by Russians on April 19-20 and appeared in the video of the propagandists of the horde. On April 30, she was sent a photo in which she recognized her son.

The killing of prisoners is a violation of the Geneva Convention and a war crime."

Middle left. His mother recognised a photo of his body after they executed him.

Protesting outside the Kremlin not with placards. The regime which is so frightened of criticism will probably find a way to prevent it.

"Ukrainians will never accept Russification and Russism, - the first president of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria Dzhokhar Dudayev."

Sure looks like it.

You and Wibb accuse me of lying, of being pro-Russian and being ignorant but expect me to keep talking to you?

This is personal to me, more than you can imagine. Thus you/Wibb are more annoying than you can imagine. I actually even wrote about my background and hat some/many Ukrainian refugees I speak to here in Ireland agree with me. None of my sources is Russian.

(And I also wrote that climate change might be a blessing. A b l e s s i n g !! 44C in Dehli already. I must be evil. Someone will decide I am mad.. .. again...)

I consider it to be my duty to look for the truth and I don't appreciate disingenuity nor being accused of it.

The article I linked to was published by BBC. Can't you just for a second ask yourselves why BBC did it? I read BBC, IT, NYT, Spiegel and other manipulated media mainly to know what the likes of you and Wibb think. I prefer much less biased sources. But you would never believe nor even understand. I tried informing you but you keep labeling me as Putinversteher. But I can't even set my foot on Russian soil...

As I wrote: you chose to be blind, deaf whatever. iPhones over clean water. You chose wrong. But that is just my opinion. So you/Wibb chose to believe I was Russian. LOL! And you keep repeating the same stuff I know since I was a pretty little child.

OMG! OK, I admit: Russians are evil by nature. They eat their children. I am Putin's spy trying to influence you to subvert the ROI and win the war. Let's build a hyperloop to Kiev to cool the Earth and steal Zelensky! Teach me more history to dissuade me please!

Your posts are just a word salad of absurd rubbish. You must be on drugs or something, because no sense can be made of any of it, and if you even believe any of the crap you are writing, then there is no point anyone here conversing with you, because any points made are just lost in the void between your ears.

Considering the thread seems to have moved into the Conspiracy Theories or maybe Russian Lovers forum here's something a little different.

Another Russian Ka-52 helicopter ($15m+) shot down by an anti-tank missile. This might be the same team who also shot down another Ka-52 in a similar location previously:

I'm pretty sure all the claims about lend-lease are pretty much baseless.

Lend-lease does not change the types of weapons the US will offer Ukraine: it just makes it easier for the President to send military and other aid to Ukraine without necessarily requiring direct approval from Congress.

The fact that the Biden Administration is currently putting a Ukraine funding bill in front of Congress implies that they're not even planning to use the lend-lease act and they would rather get Congressional approval regardless of lend-lease.