Russia - threadbanned users in OP

The EU needs some seriously tough, binding laws on media ownership that are part of basic qualification for EU membership. Hungary would need to be put on notice to comply or have accelerated measures to eject them from the EU.

Speaking of losses, the Russians have lost 22 tanks and 27 APCs in one day. Total tank losses are now 1,008.

I am just commenting on the motives.

Like hell you are

There are plenty of countries in the world now being ethnically cleansed and getting zero support from the west.

Not this shite again.

There are plenty of countries in the world being ethnically cleansed which are getting support from the West. The West however is not and can never be the entires world's Watchdog. Where are all the wealthy Asian and middle Eastern countries in these wars? Why are the "west" constantly expected to clean up the **** of despots and dictators killing their own and each other in places millions of miles from the "West"?

So why would the West support Ukraine and more importantly Ukrainian people as opposed to some other spot on the planet? Does that question even need to be answered ffs.

The Ukraine is part of the West. It is part of Europe. The Russian invasion not only seeks to annihilate Ukraine and its people, it also threatens to destabilise the entire European region, with likley further "special operations" by Russia and ultimately the threat of nuclear war which will not just impact the "west" but the entire world.

Meanwhile many many countries in the West has taken in millions of fleeing Ukrainians and are doing what they can for those who are fighting for their countries and their own survival. And what again of all those wealthy Asian and Middle Eastern countries? Nada.

And at the same time they turned down free Russian passports and citizenship to the point Russia stopped offering free passports in Crimea ,

This crap and I mean that kindly is root and branch Wallace Daly nonsense.

The notion that peace can be achieved , by what giving Russia 30 percent of Ukraine and sending zelensky off to another country so a Russian sanctioned government can be instilled in Ukraine.

It's hog wash on any metric.

And I'd say you subscribe to the notion that Ukrainian people could never have possibly wanted to join the EU and it all must be some dastardly EU plan to disrupt Russia.

And NATO were the core of the problem.

None of this has any relation to one man's insane views of owning and entire land and restoring some dream of a block from times gone by.

These views can be deconstructed even on the most fundamental level.

But Biden. But America, but why didn't they try. Zzzz

And another jet and 9 UAVs

Not really, there is a bit more nuance to it than that. Issues around the EU/German gas supply was voiced before trump so he didn't "predict" anything.

Trump wanted the EU to buy more US gas, despite the US export processing being maxed out and there being issue with EU infrastructure to take delivery of LNG and transport it around the EU.

With US cracked gas being more expensive.

Then there is his stance on NATO funding.

There is also the concern of being energy dependent on the US under Trump.

He was laughed at, because people can see through his fake concern for the EU being dependent on his pal Putin.

Heart warming to see how Russian 'troops' go to such efforts to help their wounded and striken comrades.

Are you actually annoyed because people thanked a post pulling apart your 'americans aren't doing peace to save Ukraine' speel.

It's the same stuff Mick and Claire are parroting. If you don't like the comparison then don't repeat their talking points. It really is that simple.

The absolute destruction you are seeing in Ukraine right now. There is one origin and he's hiding in a bunker. Let's not have people apologizing other countries aren't trying to end it. Yes ? ....

Oh and final point here for you.

But what Putin bots are posting is propganda. When it is you have to call it as such.

I do not just mildly disagree I find it untrue and vehemently disagree with it. As well some posting here try to deflect blame onto western democracies which is wrong.

Slava Ukrainii