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McDermott is to sue Twitter.

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  • Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Very interesting case, it shows the presumption of innocence is under threat in society nowadays. Legally he was never found guilty of anything, but he still disappeared from the radio and TV overnight, due to allegations designed to harm him, which they did.

    I think there’s no doubt he can win a defamation case against someone, the interesting question is can Twitterbe held responsible. I think that realistically they should be, given that they do suspend people and have moderated some content members of the public posted.

    In terms of defamation, the burden of proof is really with the person who publishes the information. It’s on them to show the statements were true, not on McDermott or someone in his position to show they were false.

    Not a fan of McDermott by any means, but his treatment is outrageous, he lost his career and all respect on the basis of lies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    You want to know the difference between an anonymous tweet that was a fabrication and a BBC documentary which has testimony from several women who accuses him of "misconduct" and how they can be reported on differently?

    Really? 😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I want to know why no Irish Media outlet reported that the said presenter had left RTÉ due to an anon online complaint of sexual misconduct and why it took over a year for that reason to come out in any media, until the complaint was settled. I don't see the complications in reporting something widely known? Was there any benefit by not reporting this, instead they kept the guy in the news every month, who was replacing him on the breakfast show and how he was missing from the Love Island Aus line up.

    In the case of Westwood (who I am now remembering as being a complete plonker) he and his team have come out and denied these charges, while his employer has stated he as left until such time charges are cleared.

    While there is no Documentary of the anon complaints in this case, I still don't see why the media tip-toed around the issue for a year. Did they even do any of their own research to verify anything?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    There is a court case against Twitter at the moment and you don't see the potential implications for Irish Media Organisations reporting on anonymous tweets which turned out be fabricated.

    I hardly need to join those dots for you, do I?

    I could start up a twitter account now, anonymously, and claim Marty Whelan touched me, do you think the Irish Media should report on that?



  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If it was seriously taken up by Marty's employer, yes I think they could have run an article.

    Marty not in the Morning as Boarderest Hints at Misconduct

    An anon user of Boards .ie (known as Boggles) has claim of unwanted advances from RTÉ Marty Whelan. Whelan who has had various different roles in the national broadcaster along with a stint with the now defunct Century radio, was not available for comment but his legal team says he has nothing to answer for these anon claims. RTÉ have said they have a robust system and have taken the view that Marty will not be able to host the shows until the allegations are fully investigated. We reached out to Boggles but they were unavailable for comment.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Well I never would have suspected Marty Whelan of that. Jesus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Then when it turns out to be fabricated, RTE will be sued, just like twitter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Good luck with the case :) But I would point out that the sample article allegations.

    Though it will be interesting to see where RTÉ goes with this. Do they reinstate or will he sue? I thought it was quite a kneejerk reaction from RTÉ, so it will be interesting to see what their process and thinking was for his removal.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Unfair dismissal, though he was on contract. Breach of contract? seems you can find something to sue RTÉ over, my TV license he can sue the over my TV license.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    If he was unfairly dismissed or their was a contract breach he would definitely have case. Did either of those 2 things happen?

    My license fee pays for Marty Whelan, the man is a national treasure, he is welcome to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    If he had x months left on the RTE contract and they gave him payment for these that would be contract terms honoured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Ah but you see RTÉ sometimes have a completion bonus if you are successful in getting to the final year of your contract, Pat Kenny had one in his last contract with RTÉ.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    But they could just add that in rather than risk being sued, financially the contractor would be in the same position as if they finished their role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭marty whelan




  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Letter from his accusers solicitors saying her allegations were false.

    She should be taken to the cleaners. How much in earnings did he loose for a start?

    https://m.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/ex-rte-presenter-eoghan-mcdermott-to-return-to-love-island-australia-duties-after-false-sexual-misconduct-allegations-42079106.html



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    100 percent. Shocking.

    Do we know what age she was and if she was still a school kid? Just for my own curiosity.



  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




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  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where? Age of consent in ireland is 17 is it not? Hard on the lad for sure amd completely wrong how this was handled. She was in school from what we know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,206 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Very stressful time for that man the past few years. All down to a nasty liar.



  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So where does the article say she was older than 18?



  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well when is invited on the Late Late or another tax payer funded station he should be asked the hard questions around this.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Imagine people thinking this in some way vindicates him.

    Man was 27 years old and picking up his girlfriend after she was doing her mock exams.

    The only thing that was clarified is that she was not under the age of consent. Literally nothing else is denied or clarified.

    She won’t be taken to the cleaners, and instead of asking why, people will still show sympathy for the poor man who has the power to bring her to the cleaners.

    Why would he spare her that? The mind wonders what he’d be afraid of going on the public record.



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Gianna Ashy Vessel


    Serious creep vibes off this fella.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,992 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Taking a 17 year old school girl into your place of work to engage in sexual “relations” is grounds for immediate dismissal in most countries of the world.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Hes a piece of a ****, a 27year old man messaging not to mind sleeping with a 17year old is a freak and in my book.



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