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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Have a read about an idea Germany had about Madagascar in 1940. Inspiration to BJ.



  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not to drift overly into politics but that Mail on Sunday article for anyone who has been following the news, appalling stuff, they really have absolutely no standards whatsoever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Musk buys twitter.

    I'm a fan of his have to say. Interesting times ahead to say the least. If he's true to his word re: transparency etc, could be a v good thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I see people are rejoicing online like it's Robben Island in 1990. All because Twitter banned them from <checks notes> saying mean things to the transgender community?



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  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Alessandra Miniature Owl


    Personally I don't see how making Twitter even more of a free-for-all can result in anything good.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yeah, Twitter for all its faults, didn't ever really ban people for political opinions it didn't like etc. It banned people for being abusive assholes (for the most part at least, none of these things is perfect).

    I suspect not much will change in reality. Many platforms have been launched with the concept of "absolute free speech" and none of them have worked for various reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Wonder will Trump be back...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭kuang1


    I expect he will despite the fact that he's hitched himself to his own platform. Which has been an absolute unfunctioning joke since its launch.


    I'm reminded of this:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    I also wouldn't trust a word out of Musk's mouth.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    If the pro-censorship types don't like it couldn't they go and set up their own platform?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭kuang1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    This is not going to result in anything good. I don't think "free speech" and "being able to say absolutely anything" are the same thing but it looks like the latter is what Musk is aiming for.

    More hatred, more division, more extremism. These are the last days of liberal democracy.



  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Big fan of Tesla, big fan of space ex and enjoyed their recent documentary on netflix.

    Not a fan of twitter, don't engage with it but I think it brings out the inner dickhead in a lot of people.

    Don't know how I feel about censorship on the platform. I think stupidity, mendacity and mean spiritedness are infectious and the likes of twitter are the perfect delivery system for the masses. I think the standard of public representative is in extreme decline and whilst I'm not ready to call the decline of liberal democracy - I do think the brakes have been hit on progressive thinking and if you aren't moving forward you are going backwards as they say.

    I think it's sad that people draw foolish political alignments over trivial issues blown out of proportion on the likes of twitter. I think it's sad that clear cut issues are muddied by vested interests using platforms like twitter to spread misinformation.

    I've little interest in Musk's takeover as I don't use the platform, albeit if social media continues to undermine progress I guess we'll all have agency.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means



  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    No fb or Twitter. No interest tbh. Venjur said there's a decline in public representation, I think the standards have been low forever. Social media brings this to light.



  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It already exists. It's called 4chan and it's a complete cess pool of misinformation, racists and neo-nazis. I don't think its a coincidence that the few acquaintances I have that like 4chan are also anti-vaxxer holocaust deniers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Social media might bring more things to light but it has utterly done away with accountabililty, so bringing things to light doesn't matter nearly as much as it used to.

    Like, when Trump was running for president, so many things came to light about him that would have buried any candidate ten or even five years previously. But he understood perfectly that you don't have to answer for your actions any more. You only have to create enough noise to confuse people long enough for them to lose interest.

    Then when the scandals kept coming, what happened? An entirely fictitious scandal emerged which tainted Trump's opponent. Pizzagate would never have been published by any proper newspaper or TV channel, but tens of millions of people believed Hilary Clinton was a child sex trafficker because of social media. Thirty seconds of critical thinking would have told anyone it was bollocks, but social media is designed not to challenge your beliefs but affirm them, dragging you further and further down the rabbit hole. It is literally written into the code of Twitter and Facebook that if you read crazy conspiracy theory #1, then your timeline will now feature crazy conspiracy theory #2, 3 and 4.

    People have always been manipulated by the media. However, back in the days of the Sun and the News of the World screaming pro-Tory headlines, it was very obvious, thus could be countered and there were rules by which everyone had to play. With social media, the rules are gone out the window and lies and disinformation keep morphing and resurrecting. At the same time, people have abandoned reputable news outlets and no longer have the attention span to really find out the truth.

    We are in a very dangerous place right now and I don't see it improving. The worst thing is a lot of people will think the end of democracy will be a good thing.



  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you take the worst politicians. People that will stoop to any low. People that are totally self interested and will do whatever it takes to get power.

    "They're all like that" is exactly what they would want you to think.

    There is a wide spectrum of standards in public office and I think the floor has fallen out of the bottom end of that.

    There is no one way to spot the real charlatans, but they out themselves pretty quickly when in office.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    If Twitter does end up like 4chan an alternative will emerge for sure. If nothing else, Twitter's opportunity cost on advertising revenue will encourage serious competitors into the space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I know he wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea. The Blindboy podcast this week was a conversation with Keith Earls. Probably no massive insights but interesting all the same. Especially when he talks about hating rugby for about 6 years after the lions tour.



  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's crazy how bad the mental health aspect of the game is for some players. Andrew Trimble said similar stuff about his lack of self-belief; how one bad moment at the start of game would ruin him for the rest of the game. James Lowe once commented that the lack of mental skills was one of the biggest differences when moving to Leinster. I hope we've gotten better since



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    He talked about how that has improved and how players look out for each other now. That it’s a much more open and supportive environment when it comes to mental health.



  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah I think this forum has largely gone the same way.

    Ye big ars*hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,687 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Sir John Kirwan was the first player I heard openly discuss his mental health. Sure it was after he retired but he was such a legend of the game to have someone like that be so open about his struggles when playing caused shock waves in NZ society. It absolutely changed how so many men viewed mental health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I choose to hear that in the warm and compassionate tone it was meant in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I think sometimes we tend to put players on pedestals. That dehumanize them to a certain extent. Like they don’t feel what we feel because of the talents they have. Where as the truth is, their talent exposes them to a lot more stress than most experience.

    Earls talked about an Instance in Ravenhill of a fan shouting at him that he had butter fingers. That it totally messed up his game as he was totally fixated on not dropping the ball. Something so small having such a big impact really surprised me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Made the decision to change to a fully electric vehicle. Got solar panels in recently so have decided to go all the way.

    House is less than 3 years old and everything in it is electricity powered. No oil or gas.


    But despite having heard some anecdotes about shortages of new cars and microchip etc, had no idea what I was getting into.

    The car I've my eye on is a Kia EV6. The dealership can't even put the order in yet, and was reluctant to take the €1,000 deposit from me coz of that. I insisted just so I could "be in the queue" as it were.

    He hasn't told me this, but from doing my own bit of research, will most likely be 12 months before I'm actually driving it!



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