Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Just to be very very clear , I've personally met , Doctors, Dentists, University professors, Engineers, students in Direct provision. I'm not at all sure what your getting at

"The Normal Refugees we get ",

Are you confirming there is in fact different "Sorts' of refugees and ergo there must be different approaches as to how they are Treated 🤔, I'm perplexed by your post . Do we judge and treat a Refugee on their Education, ability to work and help pay for your state pension 🤔

Refugee

"A refugee, generally speaking, is a displaced person who has crossed national boundaries and who cannot or is unwilling to return home due to well-founded fear of persecution"

These refugees aren't the "normal refugees" we get. They aren't going to be in direct provision. They are intitled to claim all social welfare Irish people can inc Rent supplement & HAP. They get off the plane & have RSI numbers before they leave the airport. They can take up full employment the very next day.

The difference between these & the normal refugees we get is that they can start paying tax within days of arriving. They are not normal refugees. They have been granted full status on arrival. They are not held in direct provision waiting to be processed. They ane not waiting & hoping to get full status. They already have it. This is why they are NOT like our usual refugees

A lot of these virtue signaling people are very impulsive and ideally would be the worst candidates to share space with.

You just have to look at their profiles, they are always posting negative. Who wants to be holed up with someone who's only source of validation is getting a few likes for miserable post's.

I'm not getting anything in a Twist , so to speak , just flabbergasted he's plucked these properties out of a Hat (more likely from somewhere else frankly) and doesn't get how this looks for those already in emergency accommodation an or on housing waiting lists.

More appropriately put however the Government themselves claim "Asylum seekers" have their cases processed within a couple of months, if this is true, why is there still 7k still in direct provision, presumably a large proportion have been given Refugee status and yet, still remain in Direct provision, with Zero entitlements.

I'm just taken aback by the "Normal Refugees" comment and I reiterate I'm referring to Asylum Seekers , invited, not illegal ones.

I'm fully aware of the difference but point you to the fact, Government claim Genuine Asylum Seeker cases are processed within a matter of months. Based on this simple fact there is clearly thousands still in direct provision that now have refugee status and are still stuck in a system not fit for purpose and entitled to nothing .

I'm not referring to those who entered the state illegally, I'm referring to those actually invited to this country.

Anyone in direct provision haven't exhausted all avenues. If they had they would have been moved away from direct provision AFAIK. I didn't think anyone with full status could stay in direct provision. Happy to be corrected on this.

There are empty social houses in every town, when the council buy a house, or get one back that has been let, it takes them months and sometimes years to get them refurbished to their standard, sometimes this is a lesser standard of finish than is already in the house

They have no choice are you aware of what Direct provision actually is 🤔

People just will not admit the double standards

What are you taking about? 😕

Of course there is double standards at play and for very good reasons.

People seem to forget their is a mass murdering pension aged lunatic not that far away that wants to get the old Soviet Union back together.

There is a very real present threat to the future of Europe, flooding neighbouring countries with refugees is a tactic designed specifically to destabilise those countries.

No one is answering that specific question because you would want a pretty remedial view of reality not to already know the answer.

Yes. Direct provision is to house refugees while they are waiting to be processed.

If all refugees are equal then why do you suppose that the Ukrainians aren't being sent there?

And you've confirmed my point, clearly all Refugees are "Not " equal it would seem but of course that will never be admitted politically.