Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I am supportive of Ukraine coming into the EU. It is a very special circumstance and exception should be made.

Corruption is an issue. The higher level stuff can be worked on. You are not going to be able to do trade deals or spending allocated EU money without it being heavily traced, audited, exposed.

Lower level corruption could be phased out with a stronger economy. Police, prison staff etc are notoriously lowly paid. I remember being in Ukraine a couple of years ago. The tour bus I was on was pulled over by traffic police. The first thing the driver did was take out his wallet and handful of cash. They know the driver takes tourists and always has a few quid on him because of it.

They need to reform everything but It can be done whilst in the EU because of the special circumstances.

However, it needs the war to stop before it happens. And it ain't stopping because Russia are not just stopping at Luhansk (which I think Ukraine would probably concede. All of Donetsk, Kherson and surrounding provinces would not be acceptable to Ukraine.

We, as in Europe need to start thinking about the long game here. We are already seeing some shops rationing sunflower oil. Now you might think, ok, I'll have my fry with something else. But sunflower oil is in everything. You look at the ingredients of whatever you eat next, I bet there's sunflower oil in.

Are we going to tip toe around it and just send billions worth of weapons every month to Ukraine and take in millions of Ukrainian refugees, whilst food prices sky rocket. What's the game plan for if this continues for another 6 months. What's the game plan if it goes on for 2 more years, 5 years, 10 years.

There is a **** or get off the pot decision that needs to be made in Europe. Either get involved directly in the war and retrieve Ukraine from Russia, or hand Ukraine to Russia.

Looks like something definitely

hit Russian bryansk

The EU would do well to have a nation like this as a member. I know many point out the corruption within Ukraine but I'm a firm believer that's by design so the Russians could meddle freely in the every day happenings.

What we've seen from the Ukrainian people the last few months has mostly been an incredible resolve and determination to freely follow their own path. In the face of catastrophic violence, genocide and an attempt to literally remove their identity as a nation they persist. No matter what happens, the Russians cannot truely win against a people who's minds are as tenacious as this.

Corruption in Ukraine, as far as I'm concerned, is not a huge issue when we see a wide variety of corruption in existence within the EU.

About 130-150km from the border, assuming they can get this equipment off road easily.

"Russia has already lost 90% of its best paratroopers

Russia has already lost 90% of its best paratroopers in the war in Ukraine. This was stated by investigative journalist Bellingcat Hristo Grozev on the channel "Ukraine 24".

"I personally checked that in fact, in the first part of the war, Russia lost 90% of its best paratroopers. This is the most important and significant part of the army, without which it is simply impossible to conquer key infrastructure facilities and conquer the capitals," he said.

He also noted that now Russia has lost the majority of the second echelen - high-quality from their point of view troops."

I'd like them to also run out of cruise missiles. Surely they must be getting low?

From that article: "Other western figureheads on Rosneft’s board are the chief executive of BP Bernard Looney, who is Irish, and Bob Dudley, the former boss of BP, who is American."

It is nothing to do with the people or who I like. I didn't support eu expansion in 2004 because I believe that the risks outweighed the economic and security benefits for the eu as it was at that time. It was also done without much consultation with citizens of member states. There was very little discussion for example of the cost benefit for the Irish people at the time in Ireland and there was certainly not a referendum in existing member states. Perhaps if there had been more democratic consent I would feel better about it but I felt somewhat railroaded. And now we have had Brexit and Polish and Hungarian backsliding on terms that they agreed to on accession. I don't think Brexit would have happened without 2004 and all anti British sentiment aside, I would rather Brexit didn't happen than have any of the post 2004 states as members. Even without the instability that has occurred, these countries were not going to be a net economic benefit for years.

One is definitely a fuel store facility and another target , could be the mysterious helicopters flying again ,100 + kilometers from Ukraine ,we haven't seen any Ukrainian weapons or aircraft hit that far Into Russia , could be sabotage too

Certainly doesn't seem accidental no matter what way you slice it; an oil/fuel depot and some sort of military storage facility by the look of things.

From the videos that have appeared it looks more likely to have been saboteurs on the ground; no real evidence of projectiles or aircraft. Whether they were Ukrainian or not would be the question I suppose.

Also interesting that over the past few days there have been several warnings that Russia were planning a false flag in Bryansk.

A new video has surfaced which appears to indicate a missile of some kind striking Bryansk. We can't actually see any projectile but we can definitely hear one and see the explosion:

Forest fires in Russia are spreading at an exceptionally fast pace this year - the area covered by the fire is twice as large as in the same period of 2021, the Russian branch of Greenpeace said.

In the same period of 2021, 915,600 hectares of land were burnt, while now it is 2.2 million hectares.

Nah

You think most people in Europe have lost interest, or is it that the rag press in the UK have lost interest. While it is a European war and a European problem that hasn't stopped other countries responding, such as USA, Australia, Canada.

The fallout of what Russia is doing will hit most countries in the world, so while they aren't looking to get involved they will get dragged into it. Economically this is WW3

It is.

What you have though is the unique situation where both sides are denying it's happening.