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Madeleine McCann

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    How very odd that she gave a very different account to the Police and signed it .



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,866 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭nc6000


    So you think she was given money to change her story?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,327 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Portuguese prosecutors said on Thursday a man had been formally identified as a suspect in the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann 15 years ago.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    Seems like an annual event that new leads / evidence / a breakthrough appears.

    Always around the anniversary.

    Completely disproportionate response created by the media to sell copy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Apparently there’s a statute of limitations in Portugal on the amount of years that can go buy in which someone can be named as an official suspect, and that deadline is looming. But the BBC do seem to think that Portugal wouldn’t do this unless they thought something would come of it.

    Whats creepy is the amount of grown men on Twitter seemingly jumping to the defence of this sicko. Why do they not want him to be investigated?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,104 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Well, the main reason why is that he didn't do it. The investigators should be looking closer to home but they never will.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t. Who actually cares at this stage? It’s just a circus.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,441 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Brueckner was found guilty in 2019 of the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz and sentenced to seven years in jail (vile scum)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Oh interesting. What makes you think he “didn’t do it”? Two different police forces in mainland Europe have investigated him at length. He is a convicted rapist in prison and was in the vicinity of the holiday flat the night she disappeared.

    100s of detectives with 1000s of years of experience between them from 3 different police forces in 3 different seperate countries have been investigating the disappearance for 15 years and they’ve all decided that the McCanns are not responsible for the disappearance of their child. What evidence have you got that they haven’t seen?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    It’s one of the most famous crimes this century so far. All of the main players continue to be household names and are instantly recognizable. At the centre a child remains missing presumed dead. Lots of people care.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,904 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Madeleine would be 17 now, a couple of weeks from her 18th birthday…

    so I’d be appreciative of the fact that she is not alive and has been disposed of.

    Brueckner is indeed a deviant and convicted rapist.

    im no expert but can DNA evidence last 15 years ? If Madeleine was in the van, can skin fragments, hair last that long and be traceable ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    At the end of the day it’s just one missing child though. One of thousands. The only reason people “care” is because they like to guess and speculate what might have happened.

    This man was named a suspect ages ago. The only reason this is being rewarded now is because the anniversary of her disappearance is coming up. No news at all here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 81,535 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    They could compare any blood they might find in the suspects car to Madeline's blood found in the McCanns hire car.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    All over the world if you ask people to name a missing child they will most likely say “Madeleine McCann”. And I don’t think it’s right to say that people only care so that they can speculate and guess. Most normal people feel sorry that a little child disappeared.

    There’s a small bunch of weird cranks who became totally fixated on hating Madeleines parents back at the start.For them it has nothing really to do with “caring” about what happened to the child. Madeleine was forgotten about very quickly for them and it turned into a campaign to destroy Kate and Gerry McCann. Lots of the hate was rooted in jealousy.

    Despite the fact that they had had the worst thing that could possibly happen to them come to reality, people seemed to be obsessed with the fact that the McCanns were an attractive couple obviously very happily married who had each come from a working class background and successfully merged into the upper class world of medicine enjoying all the middle class trappings that came with it.

    This seemed to ignite fury in a small section of people who couldn’t accept that the McCanns hadn’t stayed in “their lane”.

    In order to maintain and sustain their feelings of uncontrollable fury all over these 15 years they have had to studiously ignore and deny all the developments in the case which steadily took all the focus away from the parents being chief suspects, clinging desperately to a number of long debunked myths which in their tiny minds continues to prove that it was the parents what dunnit.

    So now that there are not 1 not 2 but 3 separate police forces from 3 different countries with 100s of detectives who have spent 1000s of hours investigating the disappearance at a cost of many millions, that have each discounted the culpability of the parents in the disappearance of their child, and 2 of the police forces have made a currently incarcerated convicted rapist who was in the vicinity of the crime scene on the night the chief suspect in the investigation, you would think that they would finally accept that it’s time to leave the McCanns alone.

    Not a chance, not a hope.

    Currently to be found on Twitter defending the rapist paedophile suspect tooth and nail. You couldn’t make it up. How sad is that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    I didn’t know Madeleines blood was found in the hire car?? Do the Portuguese/British/ German detectives no about these blood samples? Where are they? Have you notified anyone about it??



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    These blood samples found behind the sofa…. where are they now? There are detectives from three different police forces who would be very interested to know about the blood samples behind the sofa. Have you notified any of them of this evidence?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Of course that’s the one name that everyone thinks of when they are asked to name a missing child. And guess what, that’s also the reason why so many people have taken an issue with this case.

    The media circus surrounding this disappearance was disproportionate from the start and the parents did not help their situation. I am sure there are people out there who might have felt envy towards them, but I doubt this was widespread.

    As I said: at the end of the day it’s just one missing child out of many, but only this one seems to be getting the attention the others are not awarded. The amount or money and man power spent on one case vs many other comparable ones is what most people find difficult to accept.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭tibruit


    I must say it is fascinating to have a contributor who has such access to the thoughts and machinations of all the people who have investigated this disappearance. Maybe you could tell us what evidence they have that this guy is the perp and why he hasn`t been arrested.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    What is clear is that after 15 years there’s no evidence pointing to the culpability of the McCanns. But you can’t accept that. But that’s ok. What you are now alleging is that 2 separate unconnected investigation teams from two unconnected countries are now colluding to frame an innocent man. Why would they do this and how would that work? There’s a lot of people involved here. How do you keep them all on the same sheet?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    There seems to be a group of people who are convinced or obsessively hoping that Maddies parents killed her and are covering it up. And any idea of someone else being a suspect goes against this.

    Now what those parents done by leaving that child alone that night was absolutely wrong, and they should be rightly criticised for it. But some of the abuse and allegations thrown at them by many are way over the top and many people are just trolling them at this stage.

    Maybe the parents are hiding something? maybe the German suspect is responsible? Nobobody knows at the moment, we are just randomers guessing with no evidence to say either way. Unfortunately there probably never will be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    I agree that alot of people think that equal amounts of money should be spent on every missing child. But the world is an unfair place. The McCanns were “lucky” that they were citizens of a country where their fellow citizens had no hesitation dipping into their rather deep pockets to fund the search. Wealthy celebrities got on board too and eventually the state weighed in big time in the face of increasing pressure to search for a missing British child.

    There was a sense that the McCanns had been treated badly by the Portuguese authorities and that the Portuguese effort to find her had been…..average at best. This further increased pressure for Britain to jump in and do their bit.

    But how any of this can be blamed on the McCanns themselves is a mystery to me. Should they not have begged for help to find their child??



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Literally 100s of detectives with 1000s of hours of experience have spent 1000s of hours investigating this, in 3 different countries. Pouring over the evidence, timelines etc with increasing technical and digital capacity over 15 years. The conclusion all 3 have come to is that the McCanns had nothing to do with the child’s disappearance and 2 police forces have agreed that there is sufficient evidence to at least make the German a suspect.

    This is hugely upsetting to the “it was the parents wot dunnit” crew lots of whom you’ll find on this thread.

    On this page alone you will see them allege that Maddies blood was found in the hire car and behind the sofa. Of course this never happened but that doesn’t fit their “theory” (ask them how when why or who exactly murdered maddie and disposed of her body and they’ll melt away like the snow in spring too).



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    The McCanns did not represent themselves in a good light. The teary initial performances certainly helped to promote their story, but with any of these cases people quickly lose interest because they are not directly affected by the situation. Their quick accusations against the Portuguese police did not do them any favours either.

    Most people simply don’t care (any more) about their missing child. Fair enough if new evidence or a breakthrough comes to light, but there is no benefit in reporting the same old **** over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭tibruit


    I never mentioned the McCanns. I asked you what evidence is there that this German guy is responsible? You claimed you knew the minds of all the investigators.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,846 ✭✭✭✭Rothko




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