Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Wibbs · 22-04-2022 09:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962708#Comment_118962708

They're not, or at least not officially according to very long standing international aero industry standards. Most of their fleet is internationally made aircraft, even their locally made aircraft have non Russian engines and flight systems. They're essentially beyond the Pale at the moment. So with their existing fleet without spares coming in they have to cannabalise parts from other aircraft. IE to keep say three Airbus or Boeing in the air they have to scrap one of them for spares. But that's unsustainable. If this were the 60's or 70's where all their aircraft were internally produced in the USSR this would be zero problem, but it's not and it is. Now they have the expertise to kick off internal production again, but that will take years to get back up and running and IMHO they don't have years. They barely have months. Even if this war was over tomorrow and sanctions were all lifted a large percentage of their fleet would be write offs internationally and no international leasing company would supply them with new ones, no lenders would supply them with the cash for new ones and international bodies would take a long time to sign them off as airworthy. Total clusterfúck for them.

Yurt2 · 22-04-2022 09:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962626#Comment_118962626

A sheer coincidence that (elements of) the Russian community get around to organising a Victory Day celebration for the first time deep in a fascistic war against a neighbour.

This isn't about remembering WW2. It's about a pretext for getting on the street waving Russian flags and hoping they won't get pelted with eggs while wrapping themselves in the cloak of 'the Great Patriotic War'.

Unlike their homeland, it's a free country and they can assemble as they wish as long as it's peaceful and doesn't incite hatred. I'd be giving them a piece of my mind if I happened upon it though.

Economics101 · 22-04-2022 10:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962721#Comment_118962721

There are also a few Ukrainians hare who could make it clear to them what an evil regime they support.

fritzelly · 22-04-2022 10:01PM

Can this possible Russian "parade" be prohibited from happening?

Economics101 · 22-04-2022 10:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963063#Comment_118963063

No, banning things is exactly what the likes of Putin does. It they go ahead, just shame them. Surround them with Ukrainian flags.

Polar101 · 22-04-2022 10:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962373#Comment_118962373

When THEY put CAPS in the TITLE, you know it's going to be rubbish.

Yurt2 · 22-04-2022 10:14PM

It's extremely disappointing when the tide goes out and you realise that members of certain immigrant communities do not share pluralistic values with the host country whatsoever.

A similar thing happened around the Hong Kong repression in 2019. A counter-protest, likely coordinated by the Chinese embassy saw hundreds of Chinese immigrants staging what for all the world looked like a Cultural Revolution gathering. On social media I spotted one individual who I knew and would be buddy-buddy with the right-on brigade in left-of-centre circles. Sure enough, the person on Facebook was full-on "Uighur camps in Xinjiang are a Western media hoax", "Hong Kong protestors are self-hating Chinese and rioters paid by the CIA".

Really disappointing.

Jinglejangle69 · 22-04-2022 10:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962685#Comment_118962685

Seems to be a lot of support on Facebook etc for Russia.

Seems to be the sinn fein anti government crowd but as we know sinn fein are the most popular party in Ireland.

Interesting times ahead for little old Ireland.

Hobgoblin11 · 22-04-2022 10:17PM

looks like Russia is in first gear preparing for WW3 and they have their eyes on the prize of Novorossiya, the west had better gets its ass in gear, its in neutral right now

fritzelly · 22-04-2022 10:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963153#Comment_118963153

You can take the immigrant out of the country they supposedly hate but you cant take the country out of the immigrant

And we all know full well these Russians living outside of their country are only doing so because life is so much better outside of Russia when you have lots of stolen money behind you

Danzy · 22-04-2022 10:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963156#Comment_118963156

If your missues is as pleased with your horn as your shoe horn she'll be a very happy woman.

mcmoustache · 22-04-2022 10:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962856#Comment_118962856

That's a fair assessment.

I think some might be conflating nationalism with fascism or right-wingers in general which would be a bad take given that Irish nationalism has historically been a socialist endeavor and Scottish nationalism today wouldn't be considered right-wing by any stretch.

Dufflecoat Fanny · 22-04-2022 10:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962666#Comment_118962666

Once the war is over the retribution will be delivered with videos and back stories to the belligerents for all the world to see

Danzy · 22-04-2022 10:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963216#Comment_118963216

They are using the definition derived from socialists and academics of Imperial countries.

Nationalism is a dirty word in England, France, America etc.

For obvious reasons. They have been in a lot of countries and nationalist fervour inflicted deep costs on them.

threeball · 22-04-2022 10:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963156#Comment_118963156

Half the simpletons that support them don't even see the correlation between Sinn Féin and their socialist/quazi communist claptrap. The other half are just anti everything agitators.

When you look at Germany, Brexit, Trump, the rise of Le Pen and Sinn Féin, Putin has been quite a successful little bollòx in causing the west to eat itself. The fact that at least 50% of the population are total idiots helps.

Polar101 · 22-04-2022 10:27PM

According to Russian media, only one sailor died when the Moskva went down - 396 were rescued safely and 27 are missing.

“Today we said goodbye to Ivan Leonidovich Vakhrushev. <...> Ivan Leonidovich died heroically. He led his team, led the sailors out when the fire started, then went down, drowned out the boiler room, but did not have time to get out himself. He accomplished a feat and saved the lives of hundreds of his colleagues, ”the text of a message published on Razvozhaev’s Telegram channel says.

Earlier that day, the Ministry of Defense announced the provision of assistance to the family of the deceased. The department also said that another 27 crew members were missing.

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In this fairytale version, it sounds like Ivan flooded the ship himself.

(source: https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14453225 )

Jinglejangle69 · 22-04-2022 10:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963188#Comment_118963188

Well the shoe does fit….

Danzy · 22-04-2022 10:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963240#Comment_118963240

Lol

jmreire · 22-04-2022 10:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962736#Comment_118962736

What's the problem???? Look, here's the certification, check them out and if any are missing, let us know.....the printer is still working!!!

cnocbui · 22-04-2022 11:11PM

Do Boeing and Airbus only supply parts for specific airframes? If not then I'd imagine China and India would be happy to take a middleman's cut.

joseywhales · 22-04-2022 11:12PM

What is a satisfactory outcome for Ukraine here, like in a dream, get everything you want kind of outcome?

Crimea, Donbas, Luhansk sure but they have suffered a lot, I think perhaps a few Russian provinces, belarus too?

I wonder with full western support and about 20 years if this is achievable, never again would Russia threaten anybody.

And Europe too, perhaps some oil fields that the Nazis tried so hard to reach in WW2. I believe they made some threats about Alaska, might be best to just annex Vladivostok. And let's not forget our poor japanese friends, there are a few Pacific islands I'm sure they'd finally like settled.

Anyone else want a piece?

An Irish st Patricksburg?

Ash.J.Williams · 22-04-2022 11:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118961692#Comment_118961692

South Park had a recent episode where they framed the current situation with 80s style Cold War movies 😂

https://youtu.be/jcJl9MAu95I

cnocbui · 22-04-2022 11:32PM

"Russians were so confident in the capture of Kiev that they even booked places in the capital's restaurants, said Alexei Arestovich.

He also revealed other plans of Putin's orcs - "patrols" near the Rada and the Cabinet, as well as the landing of helicopters in the capital Pechersk.

"The trick is what - they thought so seriously, really planned. It shows the depth of their separation from reality," says Arestovich."

I think both food and all pharmaceuticals should be embargoed. Let them go back to a Soviet era cold war diet.

cnocbui · 22-04-2022 11:35PM

"Joe Biden gave Ukraine another $1.3 billion.

"We have the ability to do this for a long time." - Biden"

Hobgoblin11 · 22-04-2022 11:36PM

anyone else think the Russians are bluffing? I dont think they have the army/navy left to over run the south

Jeff2 · 22-04-2022 11:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962107#Comment_118962107

You are very informative and I'd go along with what you said. That said I'd say it would be easy enough to replace the engine with electronics.

That engine say a two stroke would probably have a flywheel generating electricity for the flight. That's heavy plus fuel.

Great idea all the same it they take out any enemy.

Strazdas · 22-04-2022 11:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963554#Comment_118963554

They also had plans for a victory parade through Kyiv (the Ukrainians discovered documentation about it).

fritzelly · 22-04-2022 11:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963594#Comment_118963594

The way it's going they might be lucky to even have a victory parade thru Moscow

Wolf359f · 23-04-2022 12:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963466#Comment_118963466

I know the idea of china supplying Airbus/Boeing parts was floated, but shot down by Beijing for fear of being hit with secondary sanctions.

cnocbui · 23-04-2022 12:06AM

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1517630035905155080

The Moskva started a trend - glug, glug.

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