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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Did you read the article?

    If you did you must be aware the comment "All in the name of GREEN!" is incorrect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Incorrect? 😂

    I wasn't screaming about anything, as usual you failed to comprehend my point as ALWAYS. Which was a post to someone else

    As I said, cop on to yourself. It's multiple people have pointed it out to you yet you continue. So sorry but I can't help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    Baotou is the global capital for rare earth elements - metals that are vital to modern technology and especially renewable energy.

    rare earths are vital to the transition towards green energy

    Countries should "make sure that the urgency of needing to acquire these raw materials in order to build our way out of fossil fuel dependence isn't used as a mechanism to undermine democratic decisions and collaborative design," Prof Klinger says.


    green energy my arse ! so in your magical world rare earth elements are NOT essential to the greeen agenda ? a simple yes or no will suffice and none of your deflection tactics .....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I took a quick peek and at first thought I was still on this thread. Same old same old from Brokenangel "I already answered that numerous times" "read back I answered" "posters with multiple accounts" etc etc. rinse and repeat.

    None of it getting any more credence than it is getting here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel



    From the article you posted

    This is a tailings pond, a quaint name for what is really a dumping ground. Baotou is the global capital for rare earth elements - metals that are vital to modern technology and especially renewable energy.


    Can you tell me what the rare earth elements are in Baotou?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Yes I agree it is strange that a number of posters across government thread only have an issue with repeating the same question and ignoring the answer provided. You could blame me but then again multiple people across both threads have pointed out this issue.

    Anyway as you can see from the other thread they are more interested in discussing the Orange Order than anything to do with the government



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Yup incorrect and as you would say you were "ranting and raving"

    Ironically the only one regularly going around telling others to "cop on" is yourself

    Seriously Broken you were absolutely and completely factually wrong when you tried to claim that a State owned LNG terminal was not being considered.

    At least put your hands up and admit that. Otherwise you're comments here are little better than the tantrums of a three year old .

    And repeating about yourself "I can't help" (which is plausibly true tbf) really does not help your argument one bit.

    And as many posters here have indeed pointed out, you've lost all credibility with regards to your comments in this thread.

    What gives?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    so as per usual you cant answer a question....... some spoofer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    So according to you multiple posters across two completely different threads are all wrong.

    And the many posters pointing out that you repeatedly fail to answer any question regarding your comments are also all wrong. And you're the only one claiming that?

    May I quote you in your last comment.

    Cop yourself on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    You either have serious comprehension issues or you consistently attempt to blame others for your own duplicity.

    With it being so apparent on various threads it cannot be a lack of comprehension that posters asking you questions that never receive any answers from you other than your by now all too familiar "I already answered" "read back I answered" with no reference to where you supposedly answered, or "look it up" etc. Even a stone would comprehend by now that posters are not failing for it and are rightly asking that you answer.

    Got a good laugh from you opinion that somehow or other it was a victory for Ryan on him having to back down on the turf issue, and it raise the possibility of a third reason for not answering questions. That of being like a cultist who cannot see the wood for the trees, and where the Irish Green party is concerned there is a lot of wood between ears .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    The bit highlighted in my post, thought that was clear

    Any idea what those rare elements are? I guessed you wouldn’t answer 🤦‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    tell you what answer the question if rare earth elements are essential for the green agenda and ill tell you them !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    At some stage are you going to post about a topic?

    See above, you two seemed obsessed with discussing posters all the time.

    Its extremely boring, especially with the regular faux pas when a topic is actually discussed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Quelle surprise, I have no idea what they are but I didn’t share the article as some sort of proof



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Lol.

    Here's Brokenangel recent comments "discussing" posters

    Then hillariously attempting to appoint blame to others. Sure

    Exhibit A:

    @brokenangel "Yes I agree it is strange that a number of posters across government thread only have an issue with repeating the same question and ignoring the answer provided. You could blame me but then again multiple people across both threads have pointed out this issue.

    And another.

    @brokenangel "It been discussed by a few anti government posters. The same posters who spent all day yesterday discussing the Orange Order on the thread . Nothing about the proposal for 5 days off for employee etc."

    Considering the issue at hand is you refusing to engage in honest discussion on this thread, there's just way too much irony there. We're going to need an awful big magnet 🧲 shortly

    But back to the topic at hand. Are you going to admit you were wrong when you made the following claim as I have already shown is incorrect.

    @brokenangel "you are the only person in the entire World talking about the Irish government building their own LNG terminal? Something which has never been an option and never will be."





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    This particular topic is you refusing to answer questions you are asked and your silly little transparent games attempting to make it appear others are to blame for that and not you.

    Exactly what you are again attempting to do here.

    Give it up broken, it grew old a very long way back and is fooling nobody on any thread. All it is doing is further shredding whatever little credibility as a poster you may have left at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14



    You really didn`t need to provide further proof of you attempting to blame other posters for your own duplicity in attempting to not answer questions you are asked.

    It is very clear to posters, not just on this thread but on others, that the likes of your reply above are your all too familiar stock in trade in doing so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    You didn't even understand what a manifesto is yet you have a snide comment on every post trying to demean everyone else's opinion. Really that just says it all

    Anyway will leave you to it. I don't want to stop you talking about gas



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I am more than well aware what a manifesto is. I have been reading them most likely before you were even born.

    Basically a set of proposals and promises made to the electorate before an election in an attempt to garner votes. Promises and proposals that have in the past been either dropped or altered by parties when seeking to become part of a coalition government when negotiating a programme for government, or promises and proposals that in the interest of the state as circumstances change also need to change.

    Gas is very integral to any discussion on green policies. Even more so now with a war in Europe when the Irish Green party are attempting to, (similar to their attempt on turf which they are having to embarrassingly having to pull their horn in on), are also attempting to ban all forms of LNG. Something that was not included in the Programme for Government agreement they signed. s So I really do not need any lectures from you on manifestos or programmes for government as yet another attempt by you at changing the subject of you not answering questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo



    You posted

    "are you going to post about a topic?"

    And I replied

    Back to the topic at hand . Are you going to admit you were wrong when you made the following claim as I have already shown is incorrect.?

    @brokenangel "you are the only person in the entire World talking about the Irish government building their own LNG terminal? Something which has never been an option and never will be."

    So looks like there's no answer yet. So I'll ask again same question.

    Btw don't try the "I've answered already / read the thread" type nonsense. You're comments have been already called out many by many posters on boards for that rubbish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    That one post had more points to it than anything you have posted for the entire thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Well things in the Green Party are getting hairier and even more bizarre than ever.

    Not only is Mr Ryan currently inexplicably stonewalling the Oil and Gas field at Barryroe, all the while winging in new proposals to ban the sale or gifting of turf in rural Ireland, and interfering with the planning process for the new Shannon LNG terminal all supposedly to save the environment

    This week however he's got himself into extra hot water by handing out prospecting licenses for gold and silver mining in North Leitrim, the environment be damned

    From the Leitrim Observer

    Treasure Leitrim member and one of the group's spokespersons, Jamie Murphy, said “we are shocked by the decision of Eamon Ryan to issue prospecting licenses to this carbon heavy, energy intensive extractive industry

    So the same guy who won't allow the people of Ireland have access to untapped resources providing for a safe, secure and reliable source of natural gas in years to come, along with necessary LNG infrastructure amongst other things, has decided in his wisdom that it would be a good idea to hand out prospecting licences for an industry which is anything but environmentally friendly


    When will be rid of these fools in the green party?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    It should be fun hearing the usual suspects coming up with an explanation for this.

    Even the old guard in the green party must believe the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

    Post edited by charlie14 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭gladvimpaker


    I'm not interested in politics myself but the green policies are just too much all at once. Like an addict or a compulsive gambler they thrown everything in and they never think of moderation or going in slowly and carefully. There's no logic to their proposals.

    Don't believe in the hype or fear mongering.

    I've observed the lack of bird life and changes in bat populations around their wind farms, and is very alarming. The bees are not pollinating the flowering shrubs such as gorse and heathers etc.

    The greens are about green energy,they have no interest in flora and fauna.

    We need an opposition party who'll be more inclined to look after the environment and the land and waterways rather than destroy habitat's and that humming off those windfarms is noise pollution, let alone the amount of diesel and fossil lubricants needed for maintenance and running them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Have you read the Green policies? like the Public bank etc?

    Personally all of the parties should be backing that proposal and everyone in Ireland. Too long are we stuck at the mercy of BOI/AIB/PTSB



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Ah yes I've heard that after a new found interest in the mining of gold and silver in North Leitrim - they now want to be known as the "Banking Party" and are dropping all this ol' green stuff altogether 🤑 Or maybe not 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,049 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    public banking has been on the greens and others manifestos for a long time now, since the 08 crash



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