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NI Women's Football Manager to be cancelled for telling the truth

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]



    He should have said "the average woman" and "the average man" because otherwise many people would interpret the statement as the obviously false "all women are more emotional than men".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,547 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    It's kind of predictable that this thread would turn into an opportunity to slag off woman's football.

    I watch a lot of football including some woman's football matches. A lot of football podcasts have female contributors and the vast majority are terrific Jacqui Oatley, Natalie gedra etc. Woman's football is really taking off the Barcelona woman's team broke an attendance record recently, Women's euros tickets selling out too. Terrific to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭deeperlearning


    Whatever next?

    If premiership managers were cancelled and sacked for blaming the players, then premiership clubs would be firing managers every few years.

    Obviously, premiership footballers are sound lads and take their criticism unlike those emotional primadonnas in the NI Women's football team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Except... that statement is also false...


    The coach on the other hand, judging by the link posted by @gmisk, is the emotionally cracked one.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    There’s criticising players and there is making baseless claims about women’s football teams conceding in quick succession because women are too emotional.

    Why am I not surprised people are trying to downplay what he said as just ‘criticism’?



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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Definitely the worst thing he's done. Well, aside from the rape maybe.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I do hope though that this guy who's dedicated his working life to a sport he loves and has coached thousands of men, boys, women and girls across all levels of the sport has that destroyed for saying a silly sentence he probably shouldn't have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Sounds like a **** idiot. Have you seen the lads crying when they miss penos or riding each other when they score? Not to mention rolling around holding their shins for getting grazed. Man's an idiot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭deeperlearning



    Faugheen, I think you completely missed the irony in my post.



  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's OK. When a show is cancelled it normally gets a rerun or 5.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    Does women’s football use the same size goals as men’s football?

    if so, do the ladies just lob the keeper the whole time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,407 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You only have to look at tennis to see that what he said was correct.

    6-0, 0-6, 6-1 sort of nonsense.

    Zero consistency especially in finals where one opponent usually fails to turn up.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Tennis, where the actions of the likes of McEnroe and plenty of other players somehow didn't lead people to conclude that men are too emotional to play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Personally I think it is being artificially propped up by shaming men's football into funding the whole thing at a loss. Now, I don't really have a problem with that as long as people are not telling me that the rise of women's football is something they achieved organically. They give tickets away a lot of the time to get people to watch, as in the Barca game you mentioned, and they get a massively disproportionate media coverage over other sports that actually operate profitably and might now be in danger because of media bias and media willing to take losses in order to appear inclusive.

    Again I think it's a good thing that girls and women play sports, and maybe as a result of the biased promotion of women's football it might one day be able to operate without near total handouts from the men's game, but I the market is just too saturated in Europe and I just can't see it happening at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,273 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I wonder what Kenny thought of all those emotional men in the Atlético v Man City match last night. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    A mate trains a ladies gaa team, said they’re a great bunch apart from days where there’s a wedding on and literally nobody turns up at all



  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think they deliberately do that in order to lure people into accidentally clicking on the women's sport articles. Increase the number of clicks. Artificially boost the numbers and then later point to the stats of clicks and say there is a demand for these women's sports articles. Sneaky stuff but par for the course as part of the movement to graft women's sport onto the already successful men's sports.



  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All people are looking for is a little bit of clarity. Funnily enough this didn't seem to be an issue 10 years ago. It's a recent thing and I'm sure nearly every sports fan has been duped into clicking on something in the last 2-3 years because of this trickery.



  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What will happen in 5 years time when people get bored of the current trend of pretending that people care about women's sport?


    If everyone is honest about it, nobody really likes women's football or women pundits. It's so forced and unnatural. Even my own mammy bless her said it's too much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,459 ✭✭✭sonic85


    Natalie Gedra is brutal and Jacqui Hurley isn't much better. To be fair though I find most pundits male and female are desperate - very little in the way of insight and most times the analysis is bland and generic. Robbing a living most of them


    Is it slagging to say that you don't find womens football to be as good as the men's game?


    Also I think I read an article recently that said a large chunk of those tickets for the Barca game were pretty much given away - they weren't sold as such. Open to correction on that one though. I think a similar tactic is used in the game here - tickets are given away in schools and stuff to try get kids into it with the hopes they become life long fans. It's a great thing to do and I'd love to see more of it being done in the men's game too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    US womens team, world number 1 team at the time, World Cup holders etc, beaten by FC Dallas U-15 boys academy team in 2017. Gives an idea of the standard of women’s football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    You are correct re the Barcelona game tickets. Barcelona season ticket holders got heavily discounted or free tickets then that was extended to anyone who wanted them basically.

    You would have to wonder if the gate receipts even covered the cost of stewards and security etc.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I suspect the fact that the Barcelona match at the Nou Camp was against Real Madrid also helped to put bums on free/discounted seats.

    Ive heard managers explain bad behaviour by players being due to their “Latin temperament”, don’t remember there being any trouble about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    He's brought NI from absolute minnows to a decent standard in International football. He has sorted his team out unbelievably since he came in. NI are all amateurs with day jobs vs England who are all professional footballer's.

    It'd be more in your line to sort out your posts than to play Dunphy on Boards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,316 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    a sports fan would know when there team is playing. how could an ireland fan click on a link to a womans game expecting that it is a mens game when they know that the mens team are not playing?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    DUPED, i tell you, into reading about a sport they are interested in. oh, the humanity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith


    ^ It is usually a case of ‘hold on, I didn’t realise xxxx team was playing last night, how did I miss that?’, then you open the article… ‘oh right, the team wasn’t playing’.

    Happened me regularly on the BBC website due to the way they present the articles. Seems to have improved recently though.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    jesus, if people use language like that about being 'tricked' into reading about womens' sport, spare a thought for those of us who have to deal with trying to catch up with current affairs on the radio and being bombarded with sports news, as if sport is in any way important.

    on the radio the other day, after the proper news, the lead story on the sport section afterwards literally was 'football team intend to win their next match'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Big fan of the NI womens team, are you? Ever been on a team?

    He's taken on the NI team leaps and bounds qualifying them for their first and only tournament. I'm sure the women would be happy to go back into the doldrums of football.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith




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