2022 Irish EV Sales

The Leaf is a great car and brought more affordable EVs to more people. They are reliable and overall a great option for most people not doing mega miles

Because it’s different for commercial purchases.

it’s the price of the car, if the grant stopped tomorrow the price remains the same.

the incentive is to buy know and reap the benefits of the grant when reselling in a grant free market

you do know every bus and rail journey is subsided

Well maybe the configurator should allow you to select the commercial option where it applies. As I said EVs are already incentivised due to reduced vrt and coupled with low running costs is it really justifiable to be throwing €5k at people who are happy to shell out €60k on a luxury car?

OK what thinking that, he said they start from 32k which I knew was unlikely.

All this goes to prove is that currently EVs are becoming even less accessible for the majority of people. Until a steady supply of reasonably priced EVs becomes available it will be some time yet before they will begin to replace the existing ICE fleet to any great degree

You would struggle to pick up a used Ioniq 38kwh for that kind of money at this point. Used EV prices are ridiculous at this point unless you are doing massive mileage

Those first edition ID4s looks like serious value now. Even excluding the smaller range version the prices have increased an unstainable amount for most. I could have afforded one of those 42k versions but finding the 55k EVs a jump too far.

Are you suggesting that the OEMs do not bump up the prices to reflect the subsidy?

I think the ioniq 5 lower spec fall into same bracket. Great "value". But even then they used to be around the e39k mark but have crept up to closer to 41k already.

Yeah, if you're willing to wait a year, but many people wouldn't be willing to wait for an unspecified month in 2023.

This exactly.

I've had 2 Leaf 24s for nearly 5 years and they have been great. 3 bars gone on the 2012 model and 2 bars on the 2014. Still enough to do my commute with 30% left arriving home, but I wanted more range for the times I might need it.

I was very close to ordering a red Model 3, but Tesla added 3k to the price which added about 7k for choosing red. I really like the M3, but the price just got mental and it was already above what I wanted to spend.

The Leaf 40 on the other hand doubles my current range and will be the first new car I have ever bought. I usually buy 3+ years old to let the first buyer take the depreciation hit. This time around, with the 0% finance, it made sense to buy new. I would have a 100% healthy battery and the repayments were within a few euro per month when compared to a car with 60-80k klms on the clock. I almost never rapid charge (maybe a dozen times in a year) and while I would rather have access to CCS, the CHAdeMO wasn't a deal breaker.

I went with the 2-Tone Tekna spec for 30k plus 4k paid upfront (by choice...could have financed the lot at 0%). Delivery expected in July. Monthly payments of €500 is a much easier ask than about 12k up front and monthly payments of circa €750+ on a Model 3.

Everywhere I looked, there was a deal breaker issue. Every suitable competitor had a long waiting period into 2023. Anything that might have had a shorter time was well above 50k, or was a small hatch like the e-corsa and would have been uncomfortable and unsuitable for my needs. Perhaps my head needs examining, but I'm pretty sure I made the right choice even though I wasn't considering the Leaf when I started to seriously look.

agreed.. Chinese are on the way though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9akwd_qwibw

The most popular segments in general are the high value SUV cars, the problem runs deeper than a lack of budget EVs, budget cars in general are doing badly

On top of that you see brands like VW basically abandoning the compact segment to focus on higher margins and Kia/Hyundai are moving more into luxury cars

I think what has happened is that most brands basically don't want to compete in the low margin budget cars so they're basically not going to bother