How can we integrate Unionism into a possible United Ireland?

"There are many ways to respect the British identity in Ireland that don't involve some sort of subservience to the United Kingdom (or what remains of it). I've given many examples on this thread, transition periods, legal protections and stronger cultural acceptance of Ulster Scots traditions would be a major area for me. I don't even rule out your suggested federal approach, even though it wouldn't be my chosen solution and I've repeatedly made clear that I'd be fine with changes to the anthem/flag to make those of a Unionist background feel more comfortable in a unified Irish state."

There's a good start, that's something to work towards. As for East-West relations, it is simply geographically and historically necessary to have a good understanding between these islands. To paraphrase Mary Harney - we have far more in common with Birmingham than either Boston or Berlin. As for our Republic, it's more a Republic in name than reality. Personally I regard myself as an Irishman with a patriotic sense of duty to the island of Ireland, the Republic of Ireland I find it hard to get excited about, even though that's where I was born, lived all my life and pay taxes here.

I do find a deep irony in someone who has lived this side of the border their entire life preaching to me about the sacrifices I need to make!

And still you continue to dodge two fairly basic questions. I'll try once more before I suspect it will be abundantly clear to all readers that you don't have an answer.

1) How do you square your high and mighty portrayal of yourself as on some sort of moral highground while calling for something so egregious to any democrat as valuing the vote of a Unionist at over 3 times that of a Nationalist should we follow your advice and reject Unification in the hypothetical scenario where a vote passes 75:25?

2) Do you genuinely believe that refusing to proceed with Unification at the point that 75% of people had voted for it would be LESS destabilising than proceeding with Unification should a slim majority favour it?

In the meantime you attack anyone who posts any version of a united Ireland other than the 50% plus one, ignore the British identity, give the Unionists a check and send them back to the UK version that you cling to.

As I said already, until you come clean on what you actually want, posters like me are free to draw reasonable conclusions from your posts as to what type of united Ireland you favour. If you don't like those reasonable conclusions, and there are plenty on the same page as me with regard to your view of a united Ireland, sh!t or get off the pot, and tell us what form of a united Ireland you actually want.

Once again you have failed to meet that challenge.

My views are all over this website blanch. You pretend to enable you to lie.

Except they aren't. You have never set out any vision of a united Ireland, just carped from the sidelines about what others have said.

That's another lie.

Where did you ask me 'if I would accept a no vote' Frazer?

Bet you, you cannot find a post from yourself asking that question.

For the record I am and always have been a democrat, I have voted in every single GE in my almost 60 years. I have accepted the outcome of every single one and every single local and European election as well as Presidential elections and Referendums.

Can I be any clearer?

I was talking about the upcoming Assembly elections Frazer not a UI vote and I didn't say I would not accept the outcome of that. I made that clear to you as well.

Again, I will accept the outcome of any democratic vote even if I don't like or fearthe outcome. I have done it all my life.

*By the way. the leader of the current majority party (DUP) has still not made it clear that he will accept the outcome of the election if it makes MON First Minister.

Will you accept a SF First Minister Frazer?

So if the DUP refuse to recognise the result we will be seeing you criticise them for being undemocratic and supremacist. I look forward to it.

Apparently, allowances have to be made for Unionist intransigence and partitionist bitterness.

I said it. That is exactly what Donaldson is doing ATM. 'The Protocol is subjugating the Union...', scaremongering.

who do you mean on the nationalist side that oppose the protocol, both SF and the SDLP are in favour of implementing the protocol as well as the Alliance party. Every Unionist political party is opposed to it or in favour of changing it to protect "The Union"