FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

No, he is an expert and knows what he talking about. You don't.

He is the Professor of Nursing and Health Services Research, School of Nursing and Midwifery, University College, Cork. You like FG.

He also said IRELAND HAD ONE OF THE LOWEST NUMBER OF BEDS PER THOUSAND POPULATION AND ONE OF THE HIGHEST BED OCCUPANCY RATES IN THE OECD.

Has this been mentioned on here? FF deleting statements on their website. https://www.ontheditch.com/fianna-fail-deleted-website-statements-predating-micheal-martins-regime/

I'm flabbergasted at this, whatever about a secondment, there's a stench developing around this. Not only is the extremely well financed Trinity not cover his salary but the Department of Health will continue to pay €187k per annum and hire a new CMO on, I presume a similar salary and to further add to the shenanigans CMO seems only to be stepping down, not resigning / Retiring, it's just extraordinary and no one in government seems to have a clue about what is going on.

Stephen Donnelly up shortly on Morning Ireland to justify this nonsense, I presume, this should be amusing.

Meanwhile Anne "Spin" o Connor heading off to VHI , I sense a certain leaving of a sinking ship before enquiries commence on the handling of the Pandemic.

Donnelly struggling to justify this Tony Holohan Gig, he seems to think we're all going to benefit out of this Trinity Gig .

Donnelly was aware and supported the move , we should feel lucky 😳

We were going to be paying Tony anyway 😳, who's paying for the new CMO 🤔 😳

This is just beggars belief 😡

Donnelly just not getting it , there will be TWO CMO salaries and Donnellys justification 🙄, it's public Money 😳

He wouldn't answer the question for ages. Why can't Trinity pay his salary?? He bluffed about secondments. How was he allowed out to meet the press anyway?

He was also very weak on Slaintecare - Planning will take all this year and implementation will start next year. They debated an implementation plan in 2017. Its always in the future. No wonder the experts resigned.

It's just baffling this buffoon hasn't resigned or been sacked.

This story will grow legs

Donnelly was keen to say he did not 'sign off' on the secondment but was aware of it.

Mr Watt said Dr Holohan is hoping to contribute very significantly in his new role on public health policy and his contract is of indefinite duration.

Fine Gael Senator Martin Conway said this means the Department of Health could be funding it for the next 20 years and that it was "highly inappropriate."

I don't think you understand.

I claimed that we had the highest number of nurses per bed in the world.

You have produced evidence that

(1) We have the lowest number of beds in the world

(2) We have an extremely high number of nurses per population, which if 20% of them are working in management and education means that our nursing numbers are average at best.

Taking (1) and (2) together, my claim is proven by you, as average number of nurses (at best) versus lowest number of beds gives us the highest nurse/bed ratio in the world. Now, the implications of having the highest number of nurses per bed is that working practices in our hospitals as determined by local management and unions are extremely poor, thus proving my second point that nursing unions and poor supervisory management are a significant part of the problem.

Thank you for illustrating these points.

You are all over the shop with this nurse-bed ratio.

Bed occupancy rates does not equate to a high number of nurses per capita. How can you extrapolate that? It means the beds we have are always nearly full. Obviously there are capacity issues but you wont admit that.

And where is your 20% coming from?? You made that up?? How do you know that your new number makes the ratio better than other countries?

Did you read the article I sent you? It talks about dangerous practices due to lack of capacity. Where did you see positives in there? Please list the exact sentences.

Speaking on “Safer nurse staffing: the right person in the right place at the right time, he said that if you just looked at OECD figures, Ireland, with 12.4 nurses per 1,000 population, had more nurses than most OECD states. However, this was not the full picture, as the Irish figures included nurses working in management and education and that made it difficult to get accurate figures of those working directly in clinical practice. In other countries, part of the registration process involved stating place of work – this did not happen in Ireland.

It had also to be remembered that the environment in which Irish nurses worked was very complex, because Ireland had one of the lowest number of beds per thousand population and one of the highest bed occupancy rates in the OECD. The number of beds in hospitals, patient acuity and dependency, support from other health professionals and patient turnover determined the kind of work which nurses carried out. A small number of beds, increasing patient acuity and dependency and high turnover meant nurses would be much busier.