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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    No I don’t think so. You made teh statement like many other and can’t back it up. This act is hilarious of trying to blame the other poster

    Now as you posted the Ireland France interconnect is at risk, can you please provide a source?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    It’s on the Kerry LNG information. If you ever read anything about it, first it will tell you it’s owned by a US company and second it will tell you when it might be operational.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Seeing as you have problems understanding anything longer than three sentences.

    No French interconnector before 2027 at the earliest. France presently importing for their own needs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    No LNG no backup for unreliable renewables. Eamon hand-sitting on Barryroe, guaranteed same result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,249 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    It's not just a French interconnector, it's a connection to the entire continental grid via France.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Well thats more of what you've referred to as "a bunch of cr*p", but more importantly it's deliberate misinformation.

    The timeline for completion of the Shannon LNG terminal as detailed by the company in May 2021 undertaking the Shannon LNG projec was that the "liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal on the Shannon would be “online by the second half of next year”. Unfortunately that was delayed by various green objectors.

    So when they get planning permission this year - they'll be up and running next year. Good job too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,249 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Given how windy it is today, we would be selling as much wind to the French as the transmission lines could hold. The joy of large diverse grids with multiple mutually exclusive generation capabilities means the whole grid is more stable

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    You really do not have a clue. Other than the fact that America are not the worlds single source of LNG, the E.U. has agreed a deal with America for LNG.

    So how would us getting LNG from America still leave us E.U. non compliant ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Eirgrid say 2026, are you saying you know more than Eirgrid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande



    Oh, my gosh. Climate worrying is not a skill. When this is being seriously considered the exam cannot have move beyond its function as a civil service/university entrance exam and it will just soak up valuable time like the Irish language does and never be used again for most beyond the curriculum. Come to think of it the solution is to combine climate change with Irish lessons (now where did I put my flak jacket). The logic being that since there are a finite number of hours to be allocated to teaching the Irish language, they may as well do something with it other than Peig Sayers. When this is getting serious traction, it means the wrong people are shaping the curriculum and we are allowing them to set young adults up for failure.

    I'd like to find out which NGO is pushing this, I know An Taiscse is heavily involved in preparing such material previously.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,249 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I think the Americans can work out how to run a pump into a hole in the ground to extract and refine a valuable commodity

    As an example of proven BESS chemistry that doesn't need Lithium

    Vanadium flow battery

    Iron Flow battery to name just 2

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Exactly but I knew they would never get to that.

    As we seemed earlier now Spain have over supply of Solar.

    Ireland could with enough wind and tidal etc sell electricity to Europe. Which would bring down electricity cost. Not today or tomorrow but that should be the vision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Now as you posted that Ireland France interconnect is at risk, can you please provide a source.

    Lol. Not until you answer the question which was asked many times before you tried prevarication by asking that aside.

    So again.

    do you believe the EU policy on the use of safe, secure and reliable source fossil fuels (during the period of transition to renewable energy generation which includes imported LNG and the use of European natural gas) is wrong?

    Answer and we can proceed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    are you going to provide any backup to the statement you made about the France ireland interconnect?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,249 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia



    Here's another link. It used to be that Aluminium was more valuable than gold. Now we use it to grill our breakfast and throw it away afterwards

    Lithium availability is not likely to be the limiting factor in transitioning from Fossil fuels

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Where did I mention anything about Kerry and LNG ?

    I said the Germans are building two LNG terminals and their build time is two years. They are paying for those two builds, so safe to say that there are penalty clauses for them not being built within the time agreed.

    Compared to your idle speculation of 5 -8 years I would be much more inclined to go with "Money talks, bulls**t walks"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    The issue is not just one day btw but when most of Europe has little or no wind as happened earlier this winter. And that was the thing- taken together at that point Europe had a large diverse grid and it certainly didn't help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,249 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    No wind usually means good solar. Also. Most EU countries have strategic reserves which will be transitioned from fossil fuels to carbon neutral storage, plus there will still be hydro plus nuclear plus geothermal etc as well as global markets in things like Ammonia generated from renewable energy

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    If France, which looks highly likely, have nothing to spare, who do you think will ?

    At the minute if it was operational there are already a lot of countries looking to drink from a very small spare trough, and that is not going to change anytime soon.

    If we are going to thumb our noses at LNG and E.U. compliance then when it comes to spare capacity, even if there is any at high peak demand when we need it, I cannot see the E.U. moving us to the top of the list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Let me quote previous that you clearly didn't bother reading.

    "Not until you answer the question which was asked many times before you tried prevarication by asking that aside.

    So again.

    do you believe the EU policy on the use of safe, secure and reliable source fossil fuels (during the period of transition to renewable energy generation which includes imported LNG and the use of European natural gas) is wrong?

    Answer and we can proceed"

    You've now shown that you have lost all credibility with that type of dishonest posting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Eirgrid says late 2026. With Eirgrid`s history I was being generous with 2027.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    I don’t honestly care

    Again you provide nothing to back up a statement and you attack the person for calling you out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Checked Eirgrid a few minutes ago, renewable is at 70% and we're importing some too, Renewables total output is around 4500MW demand is usually more and peak demand was a once off 6800MW, so even flat to the mat 24/7 there's not enough there and there will be no appetite for public money going into anymore, by pushing ahead with the carbon tax the Greens have basically guaranteed objections to every single grid infrastructure project, there's some really stupid bas$$$s out there and then there's the Greens. Not a single new pylon will go up thanks to the collection of fukwits and numties still hanging off their mammys old moneyed teat. So pig headed for a win they've passed off people who couldn't care less before hand, think Ryan needs to give his multiple advisors their P45s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    No wind usually means good solar

    It didn't for significant periods in previous winters right across Europe.

    In 2020, less than 20 percent of the EU’s electricity came from wind and solar, and only 13 percent came from hydropower. Though percentages are rising, there simply is not enough renewable power in the bloc at present, and it is unreliable when available. Solar power shuts down at night; wind power fails when the wind stops blowing. There is an important place for renewables in the energy landscape, but they must be adopted with a realistic view to the current abilities of the technologies. The EU should continue to increase its renewable energy generation, but not as a replacement for stable, reliable sources of clean energy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,594 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I would not look on it as incorrect information. More a case of 2027 rather than late 2026 being a generous informed opinion having taken Eirgrid`s record into account.

    If you view that as incorrect information, so be it, but from just your posts today alone on tidal energy and your guesswork on a LNG terminal you are hardly in a position to judge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande



    France (RTE) is the lynch-pin for the continental electrical grid. Most countries (not all - Poland) have been shutting down their reserve capacity over the past two decades and replacing it with random energy, in particular Germany and the UK. Germany has gone one step further and shut down most of its nuclear plants, French were planning doing the same as the plants age out, they have reconsidered. All of those countries are interdependent on inter connectors and the continental grid has come very close several times over the last decade to major collapse. In one of those cases it nearly happened because the coal plant operators in Poland were not willing to supply power at the price being offered, there were no bids. The Germans dump random generated power on the grid, their neighbours get cheap power, the cost is absorbed by the reliable producers because in the evening Polish and Swiss generators provide "premium" priced power from coal to Germany. No gas from Russia means the CCGT plants are limited.

    FYI: I get most of my news regarding the energy crisis in Germany from the following:

    To top it off the Japanese are going back to nuclear. There are 433 nuclear plants in the world, with 54 under construction. It looks like a nuclear renaissance is under way.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    I believe its quite evident you don't care. My previous comment simply points that out both in what you have posted but also what you failed to post where you demand answers you but refuse to answer questions asked of you first. That's dishonest posting at best.

    As far as I can see the only poster here attacking others is yourself especially where you've been caught out accusing others of "telling porkies" and "lying" amongst other things. Not a good look eitherway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,249 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    We will have much more installed wind capacity by 2026/2027 than we have now

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some details on the IPCC report released today

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is the world's most authoritative climate science body and today’s report brings together the latest scientific evidence on climate change solutions that can inform policy-making at national and international levels.


    This report – Climate Change 2022: Mitigation of Climate Change – focuses on climate change mitigation, assessing methods for reducing greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions, and removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.


    The report underlines the need to radically and rapidly scale up global climate action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Only through delivering on our commitments under the Paris Agreement can we achieve the 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)





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