Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I hate to sound like a conspiracy nutter, but:

The pullout from Chernobyl.

Peskov saying nukes are only for a threat to Russia's existence.

That nutter Yakov Kedmi saying a failure to take Kyiv and othere cities and have a win would be a threat to Russias existence.

A complete pullback from kyiv and such hast troops are abandoning loot and gear that's slowing them down.

A false flag pretext of Russia blowing their own fuel depot in Belgorod.

Not seeming to care what would be found in Bucha.

I really fear all this points to Kyiv possibly being about to be targeted with a WMD.

For me today means we are passed that point. It is time for NATO to go in full bore. Russia needs to be pushed out of every inch of Ukrainian soil and then treated like an international pariah state just like say North Korea.

This has seemed to have gone under the radar on hear.

Seems to have been officially confirmed last night by a member of Congress ,

but all operational T-72 tanks belonging to Nato members are to be given to Ukraine for the fight against the invaders.

Hand over has already began and is expected to be completed in a matter of days rather than weeks.

US military are helping to organising the transportation with fellow allies.

It's a load of crap to be honest. A smokescreen to be seen to do something in the aftermath of the images from Bucha. Russian tanks have shown their worth in modern warfare and they're next to useless.

What they really need is air defence systems and targeted missiles to take out shelling positions or Russian strongholds. Sending a load of antiquated tanks is another 2 fingers to Ukraine and her brave people.

The tanks are requested by the Ukraine.

So they must be of use them.

To be honest I'm surprised that they are to be supplied.

It will be the first official supply of offensive weapons.

Could the UN revise its rules for membership. Set up a new organisation eg Organisation of Soverign Nations Peace With Eachother (OSNPWE) or whatever. And when fully set up its first members would be drawn from the current list bur exclude those that are for example invading another soverign country. And when fully set up the UN as currently existing would be made formally made defunct/cancelled/would down, blown up or whatever. I know that I have presented the concept / framework in broad outline .

something must be done so that the UN going forward does not allow , for example, a country invading another country having a veto

i suggest that NATO should also revise its rules for membership /engagement in conflicts. Given what’s happening at the moment it’s unacceptable that it has the means to put an end to the misery but is constrained by its rules. Is could consider also fastracking its new member joining rules. Could be done in the proverbial day by setting up ‘AN ASSOCIATE MEMBER ‘ category and immediately make available all of NATO services without asking for anything in return in the short term

something PROFOUND needs to be done in both org to make them more fit for purpose

Russia did not degenerate, this is just a mild reflection of the previous centuries of savagery.

Another Russian shill!

Murder is murder doesn't matter the century.

A European country is committing genocide in 2022 and your going on about equivocation... disgusting comment!

You got that arseways anyway.

Ukraine definitely needs weapons to go on the offensive now because Putin will step up over the next while before their big victory day in May. Things could get very bloody now that he looks like concentrating on a few areas .

Poster wasn't equivocating. They were responding to a comment that Russia had degenerated by saying that they had never moved on from those times.

i.e. to make it simple - "The Russians have descended into savagery" is responded to with "they never got out of savagery"

Fair.

And yet there are some round here who think the guy who reversed the lorry into the gates of the Russian Embassy went too far! That lying toad of an ambassador needs to be sent packing immediately!