"Green" policies are destroying this country

There have been a few classics. The claim that we generated, over 6o%( I seem to recall), of our electricity from renewables last year, and that the regulator was referring to a ship sinking and rupturing an Irish LNG line, when the curator was talking about one of the dangers to our energy security being a ship sinking and rupturing a Moffat pipeline.

Still seems to believe both of these as the poster has not corrected them, although they have been pointed out as Hobby Horse manure a number of times.

Must be all those "reading and comprehension issues" the poster keeps going on about and bizarrely ascribing to other posters. 👀

My personal favourite is the poster saying there are other renewables in Ireland that aren’t solar or wind that will keep the lights on instead of gas.

It would be hilarious if the effects of blackouts/brownouts weren’t so feckin serious.

Ah angel you continue to make a fool of yourself.

Of course they are renewable 🤦‍♂️😂

Tis not

And the answer is not a hope.

I think its akin to something my dad used to say about those who would argue with a signpost regardless

"Everyone is aware we don't have enough renewables now to run the grid."

Wow we've made some progress at last, well kinda. Then unfortunately you go and fall flat at the final fence once again 🙄

We're talking about a period of transition to renewable energy generation over the next 30 years where natural gas is essential to maintaining grid stability. The same grid that can be used for all types of energy generation as and when needed.

You ask "Why not just plough the money into renewables instead of doing it twice"?

Well like every other country in Europe - that transition is going to take time. Renewables can't just be magically scaled up immediately just because you think they can. Even Eamon and friends don't try and push that piece of fiction

But yeah there'll be lots of potential for crossover of infrastructure with natural gas / LNG storage which can be repurosed for hydrogen or methane. Depleted gas fields used to store CO2 from other processes. Gas generation plants ditto converted to methane etc. Plenty of opportunities to reuse existing infrastructure over time.

This is discussion. And despite your daft personal insults no one is "trying to be smart"

The use of repeated rubbish such as "multiple times" really doesn't help your argument btw. Maybe for once a rational comment might help?

And the point you've MISSED on "how low the renewables were on the grid" is not for the reason that we don't have sufficient renewables to produce large amounts of electricity when the conditions are right. But rather that the conditions are frequently not "right". Meaning that for the purpose of energy generation renewables are unreliable and require frequent backup. Surely you at least understand this?

You also seem to be so caught up with the bizarre idea that where any proposed project doesn't happen immediately then it shouldn't happen at all. What kind of stupid logic is that?

It has been acknowledged by the EU that a full transition to renewables will take at least 30 years. And in the meantime it is acknowledged that there is a need for non renewable sources of energy generation. How do you not still understand these basic facts?

The building of a LNG terminal (with the removal of the deliberate blocking by the green interests) can be fast tracked. And even the completion is 2025 or 2030 - then that gives it a lifetime use for another 20 to 25 years up to 2050

Barryroe despite your childish claims is no more "dodgy" than any of the private companies investing in other forms of energy generation. That you chose to use childish and unsubstantiated bogey man descriptors says more about your own mindset than anything else.

The Barryroe gas field has independently verified reserves of valuable natural gas, with a start date as already detailed in 2026. Or at least it did before Mr Ryan of the Greens effectively stonewalled all communications, which is an inexcusable boot in the bollocks to the country and something which will come back to bite him imho.

The infrastructure involved in both these now essential energy projects is to be privately funded- so no "billions" will not be wasted, with that and the fact the infrastructure can be likley repurosed at the end of its life for energy or carbon storage is an easily understood win win.

As has been discussed in this thread in detail - EU electricity prices are not controlled by private developments in the energy sector.

So again to reiterate, like the horse at the waters edge - you've managed only to come so far in your understanding of the issues and challenges ahead. But no matter. Keep trying