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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    They just introduced the vaccines and the significantly more transmissible and less dangerous variant as cover.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I do not like Holohan.I agreed with some of what he said ,but I thought the measures implemented were too restrictive for too long, he was unwilling to try any other combination of approaches, and many sections if society were left by the wayside by his "cautious" approach.

    I don't think he is great now either.At best, I think it has taken him 2 years to to realise that we have to live with this thing - really live with it, not duck and dodge it.

    I also seriously wonder how much Trinity offered him to entice him away from that civil service role and pension he is in, or is he is taking leave of absence to go try out the Trinity role.

    But I am glad to see him go and I sincerely hope we have no need to be seeing any CMO front and centre of the news every single day again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Another nice little drop in hospital this morning, 1535 down to 1472.



  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I never once made a claim of current oppression. You're an absolutely dreadful poster, you'll make anything up to suit an argument.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    All suggesting that the media drama from earlier this week was quite unwarranted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭crossman47


    These restrictions were not silly when they were needed. People should still be careful. This is a really nasty virus even if you are fully vaccinated. I know many get it as a slight cold but a friend has described it to me as a really bad flu.

    For what its worth, I'm going to wear a mask in crowded settings when the next bad flu season starts. I know I'll get funny looks but they are now available and can be a useful protection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Big difference is, those people and myself never changed position. We had our views and stuck to them. We are not calling Tony Holohan a hero

    Where as the others are shamelessly changing theirs from their original, "We love you Tony! Tony is right!" stances to "Tony is wrong! Tony is evil! Government are evil to get rid of NPHET even though Tony Holohan is still CMO and the Government are going by his advice, like they always have but, we're too thick to understand that" stances

    I mean, we had some person on here, eat their Christmas Dinner at the window, to see who and how many were going into their neighbours' houses because Tony said they shouldn't be.

    To put it into context how Joey Tribbiani some people are...

    CMO and Government: "Advice is still there to wear your mask on public transport and in crowded indoor settings"

    People: "Waaaaaahhhh we need leadership! Tell us what to do"

    Government and CMO: "We just did. You're free to wear a mask if you wish"

    People: "Waaaaaahhhh I don't want a choice, make me wear one! Lead me!!"

    It's like some sort of suppressed sexual fantasy people have.

    Appalling ****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Down 140 in two days, nearly 10%. Every reason to think there'll be another decent drop today too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    I'm so glad that covid is finally over, and that NPHET are finally out of our lives.

    King Tony & Mehole have a lot to answer for... they needlessly restricted our lives and the economy... we'll be paying for this for years.

    I will admit that I'm glad that Tony & Mehole stuck to their guns in the face of the media onslaught this week, but that doesn't redeem them or make them angels, they let this shít drag on for way too long.

    I don't believe they stuck to their guns for the good of the country, I believe instead they didn't want to be seen to have made a bad decision a few weeks ago, so they were just ass covering.

    Yes, it's finished, but we got royally fúcked over by the government along the way.... I mean, if nothing else, what about the keystone cops dancing at empty beauty spots that were illegal for us mere mortal taxpayers to visit, you know, the people who pay their fúcking wages 🙄

    Anyway, upwards and onwards, here's to being able to breathe on random peeps on the street again!

    Post edited by DLink on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,174 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Remember when you couldn’t even buy a pair of shoes for your kids feet😀


    What a total overreaction we had in his country to cover the shitshow of a health service.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Indeed. It must be asked whether the healthcare unions' leadership is representative of the membership in general, given that many healthcare workers would prefer not to have to wear masks when they are doing their shopping after work as well as in their places of work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I hear rumours that there will be medals for people like you, those who really knew better all along, heroes all!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭crossman47


    If you think restrictions that saved lives were needless, then so be it. I think that, most of the time, the government struck a fair balance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭celt262




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    It's no freedom of Dublin City though is it?

    I'll accept it however, thank you and your apology is accepted :)

    Post edited by MOR316 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    The fake hysteria and bitching about the past use of masks isn't a great look either...


    It's incredible, masks were never and can never be a long-term societal thing. But they certainly have their place, and no it's not some lab-controlled ideal scenario.

    I agree that the likes of NPHET had made hugely overreaching decisions and govt were happy to sit back and have policy led by one angle only. And tbh there's countless valid criticisms of how this was handled at various points.

    Either way, whatever take someone has, I'm looking forward to when this stops being the issue it has been for 2 years. Fingers crossed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    They linked to someone that has crazy videos. A video of putting a carbon dioxide monitor under their face mask!!! Enough said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    I doubt their opinions are representative of much beyond ED and ICU staff. If they had a genuine epidemiological motive for the call, it was needed a month ago.


    I am not sure what changes to self-isolation are coming, but the existing ones make little sense. I don't see what someone should do if they *do* have symptoms after 7 days, or if they're testing positive 10 days later. Some (most) people will not want to see a lateral flow test again for love or money and will be out living their lives the moment the week is up. While others, who voluntarily test themselves and quarantine until they're negative, would obviously be punished for doing so. There's basically no legal reason or motive to want to be tested now. In the face of that reality, the current public health "advice" looks like a bit of a fig leaf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall



    Apologies then - I've not been spending enough time in here to familiarise myself with the ins and outs of various barely distinguishable posters who seem to live here. My initial response was to someone looking forward to being "free", and you quoted me and weighed in - I didn't go back and check that you were a different poster to the original drama queen; mea culpa. I'm glad to hear to you don't feel currently oppressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    LOL

    However i was wondering should i have taken out my violin to some of the replies. 😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Also remember many GP's refusing in person consulations with patients. Over the phone diagnosis with my local doctor was all that was available for a period of time.

    All in the name of public health



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,705 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    So Germany have a lack of covid cases due to FFP2 masks? Do they though?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,320 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,320 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Anybody able to explain the rationale behind Leo's statement about changing isolation periods for under 55s?

    Can't figure it out myself .

    Why , if positive , does it make any difference what age you are ?

    Surely it should be the same for all age groups as if you are positive you have to take some care not to infect others and that is true no matter what age!

    Completely barmy!

    Now I get the PCR testing requirements as over 55s would be at more risk alright .

    But everybody who is positive is a risk to infecting others.

    What should be done is reduce isolation requirements for all asymptomatic or mild cases regardless of age .



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They're trying their best to act like they still really care about COVID. But really they're saying don't bother getting tested if you have COVID as its practically a head cold for most at this point.

    They can't say that out straight though.

    I'd say the financial situation has them much more worried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,320 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Oh , ok so that's the rationale , is it?

    Pretty senseless .

    By the way your avatar needs to be updated jd 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    While i agree in one way, i laughed out loud when i read it, classic trump "the reason we have more cases is that we are testing more" no testing, no cases.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,320 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yes had me stumped too .

    The advice now is unless you're OVER 55 ,immunocompromised, highrisk medical condition, living with or looking after those poor creatures, or a healthcare worker, you only have to isolate until 48hours without symptoms and no need to test.

    On the other hand there is advice about testing isolating and maskwearing for over 12s and under 12s if Covid positive .

    But if there is no requirement for anybody to test unless they fall into that first list up there.

    So how do you know if you are positive if you don't test ?

    " It's totally illogical , Captain Kirk"!

    For once I agree with jacdaniel's take on this .....a bit 😉



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