"Green" policies are destroying this country

Are you now accusing me of lying ?

I described the Irish Green party and you in particular. I did not cut the end off a sentence because it emphasised the point being made because it was something I have been hiding from answering, which is what you did. And not just once. That really is very poor posting etiquette.

That is where the rich but tacky Dublin "have a few units" types go. Though others go to Spain and the Caribbean. I am not on about employing facebook "builders", but installing it yourself. I suppose someone does need to check that you actually installed it & didn't sell the panels on donedeal in order to spend a couple of weeks in the pub

Once the stuff is installed in a semi-reasonable manner it wouldnt be pissing into the wind. I could probably install my own heatpump if I had to but the grant system means the installer takes such a huge cut it wouldn't be worth doing it with the installer and if I did everything myself it would still be too expensive.

You keep going on about cowboys robbing but my plan doesnt involve employing cowboys at all.

Most people as displayed on this thread are not qualified to hold a pencil on a site let alone do an installation

What's with the constant shark Broken? No one on this thread are offering their services as contractors and you've no idea of any individuals ability to undertake their own work. If you're trying to convince people to go green that's certainly not the way to go regardless.

I did not rant, I gave a description which I believe sums up the Irish Green Party and you in particular.

You may not like that, and you have shown nothing here that contradicts that description ,but you not liking something does not mean its a lie and to accuse someone of doing so is just further poor posting etiquette.

Something you have now shown twice in quick succession. Throwing little hissy fits does not disguise nor excuse that. Even with you now realising the chairperson of CRU today cut a lot of the ground out from underneath both the Irish Green Party and you on LNG by pointing out what some of us here have been saying for some time.

This here is the type of deep pile misinformation which is too often unfortunately repeated in the discussion of Irelands natural reserves

The current issue is certainly not one of a lack of viability or a lack of current investment rather the development of the Barryroe field has effectively been deliberately blocked by our own Green minister Eamon Ryan

Last April Exola, a joint venture between Providence Resources and junior partner Lansdowne Oil and Gas, submitted an application to the GeoScience Regulation Office of the Department of Environment, Climate and Communications, for a lease undertaking to develop the Barryroe field off the coast of Co Cork...the company says it cannot move forward without first securing the lease undertaking, which it calls “a natural follow-on from the Barryroe exploration licence”. Yet the permit is not forthcoming.

It appears that the company has since written twice to Ireland’s Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications, Eamon Ryan, asking him to issue consent for the Lease Undertaking, advising that a protracted delay or refusal would mean that Barryroe’s potential would not be realized. So far Ryan refuses to meet the organisation.

In a recent online statement the company reiterated that a failure to issue consent would represent a serious failure in the national effort to transition Ireland’s economy to carbon neutral status by 2050. With gas and oil likely to remain essential energy sources to the country for many years, the potential offered by successful development of the field would be important to Ireland’s energy gaols.

Exasperated, the Irish Offshore Operators' Association has also recently wrote to the tanaiste, Leo Varadkar, seeking help; “As our line minister is unwilling to listen to our industry, or even meet with us, there is no way for us to have our suggestions heard at a political level."

From various recent News paper articles and company information online - I've edited ny comment and added the Irish Times one.

I could ask where you got yours?

That is absolutely shocking.

How can the minister ignore his duty?

There is a viable gas field that will provide us with gas whilst allowing us to build more renewables, yet the GP minister for energy has his fingers in his ears ignoring exola!!

How long does it take to save the homeowner money?

for example, it would cost 10k to install exterior insulation on the house. Let’s say that saves me €20 a month off my heating bills. That’s €240 a year.

It will take €10000/€240= 41.6 years to break even.

Now I’d also need a loan to pay for the initial output of 10k so there’s repayments on that also.

Hi woody do you mind me asking what insulation you are getting installed and how much it costs?

It makes sense from a comfort point of view but I was just pointing out it can take a long time to break even and a lot of people wouldn’t be able to either come up with the cash up front or afford the repayment on a loan to pay for the initial cost of installation.

LOL. Says the Queen of Snide, misrepresentation and false accusations.

I gave my opinion on the Irish Green party and you in particular as example of someone who has supported their every utterance and half baked idea. You reposted that opinion, but cut the sentence short because to include the full sentence would have shown what you have been running from answering, and how valid that opinion is in relation to you.

Not only have you attempt to misrepresent on a number of occasions, you have again accused me of lying now numerous times as well in relation to this. Not your first time accusing me of lying either without a shred of evidence to back it up.

Looks as if the new format here is not the only change. Not long ago doing either was very much frowned upon by moderation. As was accusing anyone of having multiple accounts or being a re-reg, but now it seems anything goes.