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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,834 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Unboosted people need a negative test or recovery cert for countries that are still asking for the DCC. I went for a PCR solely for this reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭kittensmittens


    Which countries? Usa mainly I think? For Europe though in the main, you dont even need a DCC anymore even for totallly unvaccinated people. So is it just handy to have a recovery cert just to avoid antigen testing for holidays?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    Yeah having to get a negative test a day before is hassle imo.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    More than a hassle. With all the planning of a trip to the States, one antigen false positive could ruin a lot of planning!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭kittensmittens


    So thats the main reason for a recovery cert use now? To avoid the antigen before the flight? Surely this doesnt apply to the US as only vaccinated folk can travel there now?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    My aunt (USA) in her 70 ‘s who refused the vaccines has finally caught Covid. She’s getting a fair auld doing, including throwing the guts up. Thankfully looks like no cause for alarm. Interestingly the narrative has gone from “ oh no way i’m putting that into my body” to “ i wonder will i able to get the shot next week?”

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,332 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Think the prize of unions dictating to the public goes to .....yes , it's the teachers !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭fits




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    We also have to be wary of attributing things to covid which have always existed, but have just come into sharp focus over the last two years. The public have never really known at any stage how many people are in hospital or ICU for any given illness. Yes, we've had the background noise of trolley numbers and such, but we've never had a winter bed watch in the media telling us how many people are in hospital with severe 'flu every day.

    Peoples' response to illness sits on a bell curve. The majority of people respond mostly appropriately, if a little slowly to the severity of an illness. At one narrow end of the bell curve you have people who turn up to the A&E because they stubbed a toe and it's really sore, or because they started coughing and they woke up and are terrified that it's covid and they're going to die.

    But for every one of those people, you have another one on the opposite side of the bell curve who would lose a finger and then go to bed to try and "sleep it off" instead of going to hospital.

    We know that the number of incidental covid cases in hospital is about 50%, but outside of that it would be a mistake to assume many of the rest are "overreacting". Certainly no more than normal anyway. On the whole, hospital is a lot of hassle and quite scary. People generally don't go unless they're genuinely scared for themselves; in this case having trouble breathing or so badly fatigued that they can barely move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    People go to A+E these days because they can't see the Gp



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    The cheek of Paul Reid out tweeting about how we need to all 'do more' to turn the tide of Covid, what are the HSE doing to stop spread in the hospitals among vulnerable patients? An older family member of mine who is negative for Covid on multiple tests, PCR and Antigen had to go to A&E last night, they were sent straight to the 'Covid room' - where one things for sure. They'll have Covid now on top of their bronchitis which they get every winter. The only reason they had to go in is no doctor, GP or out of hours will listen to their chest like they used to and help prescribe the appropriate medication. The whole system is a joke at the minute.

    Anyone coming out to the public like this pointing fingers and lecturing at the current time needs to start showing some concrete policies re Covid management in healthcare, also a directive should be issued to GP's - see Covid negative patients or lose your job. The gall of GP's doing 'phone consults' and landing their vulnerable patients to A&E clogging up the whole system is ridiculous. Rant over!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,699 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    This new variant is incredibly transmissible. As one doctor said, it is mopping up all the remaining people that did not get Covid before. Imagine how crazy people would have got if this one arrived during the lockdown days when test numbers were paramount to restrictions. Thankfully its mild and we are getting lots of natural immunity in the population.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes I agree. I've been massively critical of them during the pandemic. They've been nothing short of a disgrace trying to keep schools closed. Another antiquated group who's leadership only looks after themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    Anybody have to deal with abdominal difficulties with covid?

    Negative antigens, but really suffering for about 3 weeks now. Just feeling rough, bloating loss of appetite, diarrhoea. He's off to the doctor today but just don't know what's going on with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    It is a bloody cheek, but that’s what he’s paid big bucks to do - deflect and divert attention to protect the HSE machine from scandal. Covid is the best excuse they’ve ever had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Can be lots of things. The digestive system can get thrown of whack very easily by stress, illness, problems with diet, reaction to certain foods, environmental changes etc. Best to see what the doctor says.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    The piece RTE have up doesn’t fill me with confidence for the future not to mention a Dr Barry’s comments, i really am concerned for our future freedoms if you live in Ireland especially . If we go back to restrictions despite our vaccination rate it’s f*****g game over for us. Our lives will just become a miserable existence and we’ll never be able to plan anything . They will be a permanent fixture unless some magic vaccine that stops transmission comes along.

    I’m not sure Mc Entee’s comments fill me with confidence either. Is she preparing us for that there will be discussions of restrictions between the government and the health officials i wonder. Not to mention a certain ilk of the population crying out for lockdowns.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,220 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Observation of the day, mask wearing has increased again. And more power to them, expressing their free will to protect themselves, but that shouldn't mean a return to mandatory restrictions. If people want to wear them, do so, but don't force it the rest of us.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I just read an article in The Indo, on this topic and it infuriated me.

    One part quoting Reid's remarks, the rest of the article quoting an infectious diseases expert who said we are just going to get it again and again.

    I honestly do not know what they are looking for.I know what I am looking for is drastic health service overhaul, to be able to better stand up to waves of this thing.Wearing masks and washing hands are nice ideas and all, but they won't make the virus go away long term.

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/hse-chief-warns-of-huge-stress-on-health-system-as-expert-says-we-will-get-covid-again-and-again-41494741.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Not sure there's any grounds for alarm/pessimism. A cursory glance on RTEs website, and there isn't a single Covid item occupying the headlines/front page. Similar on the Journal.ie.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    There are a lot of incidental cases in hospital and the HSE is down sizeable numbers of staff. He shouldn't be tweeting that on a Monday with few weekend discharges. Getting it again and again is what happens with other viruses so no great shock there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,695 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Was in Tesco at the weekend and mainly older people were wearing masks that I could see. Was later on in SuperValu in Deansgrange with the kids, my daughter helpfully announced DADDY YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE NOT WEARING A MASK!!, morto.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Reid saying still no indications of a peak and will keep rising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭celt262


    Sure they haven't a clue on numbers i'd say there is only a fraction of antigen positives been logged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭mollser



    Nope, no indications of a peak whatsoever 😕

    Anecdotally, kids classes in school nearly back to full attendence (should be full by tomorrow / wed) after being riddled for the last two / three weeks. It's very clear the wave is on the outward leg through south dublin anyway, although hospitals may continue to be hotbeds of infection for a while yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭Widdensushi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    For hospitals maybe not yet but the 7 day positivity rate is falling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask



    • Restrictions don't seem to be working in Scotland.
    • Average death rate for vaccinated is less than regular flu

    What kind of madness are we in ?

    Ireland is what 94%+ vaccinated and some people want restrictions (which don't work) brought back ??


    WHY ??



  • Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Comfort and security I imagine. The psychological component with restrictions is massive I think.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭crossman47


    The basic problem is that when the government lifted all restrictions, many people took it that Covid was gone. They dropped all safeguards so of course it spread like wildfire. Common sense is in rare supply and its not helped by those who regard mask wearing as evil. Its a sensible precaution in crowded settings.



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