Russia - threadbanned users in OP

goldenmick · 26-03-2022 09:09PM

@Glenomra - Nothing changes. Joe was doing well, marshalling the troops etc. The he goes, again, and puts his foot in his mouth . Since then state department officials 'explaining ' poor Joe. Now, that he's flown back home watch the invasion drop further down the US priority list. Meanwhile we in Europe are left to pick up the piece and the cost. Nothing changes.

Sad post.

I'd look a bit closer to home if you really want to know who is putting their foot in their mouth.

JoChervil · 26-03-2022 09:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118839957#Comment_118839957

Yeah, if you call a leader of a certain country a butcher and a war criminal it means, he is not going to shake hands with him for sure in the future.

Such clarification is only for diplomatic reasons. Probably otherwise it could be viewed as a prodding to an unlawful action.

rossie1977 · 26-03-2022 09:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118839935#Comment_118839935

Communism is a political ideology, fascism is not. One is far left, the other far right. Fascism has clear focus on religion, weakening worker rights, strengthening corporations power among other things.

Putin is an autocrat but certainly not a communist based on his actions past 20 odd years.

RGARDINR · 26-03-2022 09:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118839390#Comment_118839390

To be fair that's exactly what the Russian military should be hitting. If they had of been doing that properly since day 1 then the war might be going their way right now

mcmoustache · 26-03-2022 09:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840113#Comment_118840113

Who was saying that Biden was playing Putin like a fiddle? Posters here or the voices in your head?

In any case, it wasn't the best thing to say but it wasn't the worst either. Still, as Donie pointed out, it is a bit reminiscent of the last President and how his utterances were constantly being "clarified" by his staff.

EltonJohn69 · 26-03-2022 09:41PM

Biden says putin is a war criminal and shouldn’t be in power… he is not wrong

Mike3549 · 26-03-2022 09:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840311#Comment_118840311

That would really help fighting russian propaganda and getting russians stand against Poo-tin

gandalf · 26-03-2022 09:55PM

Fair play to Biden, he's right Putin should be removed from power. There's been too much kowtowing to Poundshop Adolf in the Kremlin.

briany · 26-03-2022 09:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840343#Comment_118840343

An American president is obviously never going to say what I just suggested, although I do think that if it happened to Putin, it would not be undeserved at this point. And the Russians are going to make up mad propaganda, whatever Biden says, so it's much of a muchness, there.

JoChervil · 26-03-2022 10:09PM

Ukraine has a very beautiful anthem. I am under its spell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=einTXaSeGAI

sportloto86 · 26-03-2022 10:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118839035#Comment_118839035

It's irrelevant just because you said so? So there is not even a remote possibility of other extremists apart jihadis? And if these extremists are fighting for one side it's OK but if other extremists are joining the other side you would loose the soundness of your sleep?

Just to make sure - I do not condone the war. I do not condone any type of oppression. I would never put any race or country or individual above the other but I would do anything to defend my family. I have asked a simple question on a forum erroneously assuming possibility of discussion but instead all this forum is capable of is a kindergarten bullying.

sportloto86 · 26-03-2022 10:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118839035#Comment_118839035

It's irrelevant just because you said so? So there is not even a remote possibility of other extremists apart jihadis? And if these extremists are fighting for one side it's OK but if other extremists are joining the other side you would loose the soundness of your sleep?

Just to make sure - I do not condone the war. I do not condone any type of oppression. I would never put any race or country or individual above the other but I would do anything to defend my family. I have asked a simple question on a forum erroneously assuming possibility of discussion but instead all this forum is capable of is a kindergarten bullying.

Christy42 · 26-03-2022 10:20PM

I can't see the issue with the statement. As long as Putin is in power he is a threat to neighbouring countries and has threatened a load of them already.

Economic sanctions and political pressure may need to stay to isolate this administration as long as it is in power or more wars will follow.

DontHitTheDitch · 26-03-2022 10:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840467#Comment_118840467

I think it's what everyone is thinking, but by saying it out loud it provides Putin with 'evidence' that the west does want to overthrow the Russian government. That is why they are scrambling to withdraw the remarks.

Hobgoblin11 · 26-03-2022 10:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118838484#Comment_118838484

denazification comes out of the barrell of a TOS-1A long range flame thrower now

Curious_Case · 26-03-2022 10:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840357#Comment_118840357

Poundshop Adolf in the Kremlin

Had a longing for the girl who lived next door

Though ugly, bad and stupid

He thought himself a cupid

But got not a single thing he bargained for

Thank you Gandalf : )

Curious_Case · 26-03-2022 10:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840448#Comment_118840448

Doing something questionable in aid of a good cause is surely different to doing something questionable in aid of a bad cause

animalinside · 26-03-2022 10:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840263#Comment_118840263

Supporters of Biden in general were yesterday saying his diplomatic tactics had worked and he hadn't been drawn into escalation or a war with words.

animalinside · 26-03-2022 10:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840478#Comment_118840478

Don't be ridiculous. Stating a world leader will not be allowed to continue as they are is tantamount to a declaration of war.

animalinside · 26-03-2022 10:42PM

Beasty you can stop private messaging me, I don't hold your opinions in high regard and will not alter anything about what I post based on what you send me.

Working class heroes · 26-03-2022 10:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840547#Comment_118840547

3, 2, 1,.......

animalinside · 26-03-2022 10:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840560#Comment_118840560

I changed the wording of that post the moment after I posted, I don't want to get drawn into beligerent posting myself.

Economics101 · 26-03-2022 10:57PM

From CNN: "Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba today criticized Russia's strike of a Holocaust memorial site near the city of Kharkiv. "Why Russia keeps attacking Holocaust memorials in Ukraine?" Kuleba asked in a tweet, adding he expects Israel to condemn what he called an act of "barbarism." Russian shelling damaged a Menorah monument dedicated to "the memory of over 15,000 Jews murdered by the Nazis," the foreign minister wrote. Earlier this month, Russian air strikes hit the Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial Center in Kyiv, where an estimated 70,000 to 100,000 people were shot by the Nazis."

So much for de-nazification! And all the useful fools here can do is attack Joe Biden for a piece of righteous indignation against a murderer and gangster.

briany · 26-03-2022 11:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840545#Comment_118840545

No, it isn't, and furthermore Biden is one hundred percent correct. That paranoid little man is a threat to world stability. Putin won't listen to reason anymore because he's gone down a megalomaniacal rabbit hole, and he probably can't even hear his advisors from the far end of his ridiculously long meeting table. The ones he's allowed to remain alive or not under some sort of arrest, I mean.

realdanbreen · 26-03-2022 11:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840357#Comment_118840357

Best description of putin I've seen so far " poundshop adolf" ! 🤣

Wibbs · 26-03-2022 11:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840095#Comment_118840095

It was also one of the nicknames of this WW2 brute.

A Stuka divebomber with two dirty great anti tank/flak guns strapped on with gaffer tape and prayer. Now to be fair, being German it was very good gaffer tape and very precise prayer. 😁 In the right hands it was a very effective anti tank/transport/emplacement/shipping weapon(as the Stuka was in general). It was one of the main inspirations for the American A-10. Post WW2 and with the newly minted threat of the Soviet Union rolling masses of tanks into western Europe, as part of the brief for aircraft(and other things) they turned to the only people who happened to have engaged with rolling masses of Soviet tanks before, even if they'd been on the wrong side(then again without a certain W Von Braun and his friends that One Small Step for a Man, would have been a lot longer. Some selective amnesia required...). Though outclassed by single engined fighters even at the start of WW2, it was one of the more survivable bombers and before more advanced post war aiming systems, far more accurate than pretty much anything, could sustain crazy amounts of damage and keep flying, could take off from a ploughed field in a remarkably short distance and was easier to repair than most and easier to fly. As the war went on the Germans added more and more armour around the pilot, not unlike the armour in the A-10. A relatively slow, ability to loiter, hard to kill with a big gun and plenty of bomb racks scalable and an ugly but purposeful airframe was one of the things that gave the world the USAF A-10.

As I noted earlier about that many kilometres long Russian convoy in Ukraine, if a squadron of the above Stukas had seen a Soviet convoy like that in 1943, or had flown through a time warp they would have thought all their Christmasses had come at once and would have had a field day. At the time that did worry me for the Ukrainians as a target that big not being blown to bits suggested they were fantastic at defence, but offence was lacking. Where were their artillery, tanks, flanking infantry and so on. Thankfully that really seems to have changed since then and they are pushing back against the Russians remarkably effectively. They seem to have kept their powder dry until they knew the lay of the land and with that knowledge are kicking their enemy's arse. 👍️ Long may they continue on that course and kick their arse to the fúck off back to your now economically, militarily and politically fecked craphole negotiation table.

/Aside

26-03-2022 11:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840560#Comment_118840560

Check the list in the first post in the thread,the putinbots as some call them seem more determined than their armed forces at least to continue their valiant struggle.

supersaint3 · 26-03-2022 11:37PM

I'd have loved to have seen Biden go to Kiev to make that speech, announce it in advance, dare that fuckin bollox to do anything about it...

Wibbs · 26-03-2022 11:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840149#Comment_118840149

Which tells me at least RG, they're either utter morons, which I don't believe, or they quite simply couldn't. That's actually worse. Morons can learn from their mistakes, if the enemy gives them time to, if they don't have the means and ability to do that now pretty basic stuff, it shows how lacklustre they truly are.

Earlier the question was posed what if the Americans had tried to take Ukraine and how that would have panned out(very bad in the short term for the Ukrainians), but if we swing it around and ask what if the American forces, or the Brits, Finns, Polish French and Germans for that matter, had gone in as defence in the first week? I am quite sure the Russians would have faced a withering defeat in short order. It's pretty clear now that the only sabre the Russians have to wave now are their nuclear weapons. Without them they're in the tupenny hapenny place and this landgrab war they kicked off has made that crystal clear for the world to see. They're the shouty bully in the schoolyard who bawls his eyes out when he gets punched in the nose by the scrawny kid and screams through tears "I'm telling my dad!!".

This must be getting through to a lot of ordinary Russians back home, at least more than putin wants. And fears. Hopefully and sooner rather than later the Russian people start to ask questions of those pirates that have raped their nation and other nations and became monstrously wealthy on the backs of that and ordinary Russian men and women and made them thank these bastards for scraps from their table. Russia and the Russian people deserve so much better. Another 1917 revolution is long overdue.

Polar101 · 26-03-2022 11:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118840018#Comment_118840018

Russia has a fairly low life expectancy as well, especially for males - it's around 65 years, which is quite low when compared with most Western countries (Ireland's is around ~80 years for males, I think). Russia's population today is roughly the same as it was 30 years ago (talking about the Soviet state of Russia, not the whole union).

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