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General Star Trek thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ha. 5 bucks says that was invented after the fact, by some desperate fans trying to rationalise something that forces you to look at people's junk 🤭 I'm going to presume TMPs uniform design has since been intentionally forgotten in the general timeline of Trek crew clothing.

    "There was that one time we all wore Jimmy jams for a time but we try not to speak of it"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,602 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    All TNG flashbacks were in the red outfits. Never once got a flashback to that era.

    Trek 09 gave it a sort of comeback with the famous Capt. Robou



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,087 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    In the Picard thread but probably more at home here.

    The petition mentions that Kurtzman wanders from Rodenberrys Utopian vision of the future. I reckon it actually makes a hard turn Right.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    DOUBLE STAR TREK WEEK! 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,087 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Depends on your sources. Technically in Ireland, we're still waiting for Discovery. (And hasn't Prodigy been running alongside Disco for some time now?)

    Any date for Paramount plus launching yet?

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,247 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Depends on What you class as Star Trek.

    Is Picard Star Trek. After theat 1st episode of season 2 can happily say yes.

    Is that other thing Star Trek or some generic Sci fi show? In my opinion it's just some generic Sci-Fi show so not Star Trek in my world anyway.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,471 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I'm of a similar mind AMKC. It is now a Star Trek week for myself. Alas it has been a long looooong time since my last Double Star Trek week. Could this change if Strange New Worlds is good? One can hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,125 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Laurel Goodwin, who played Yeoman J.M.Colt in the original Star Trek pilot episode "The Cage" has passed away.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/07/laurel-goodwin-girls-girls-girls-actress-dead-at-79/

    Also, Mitchell Ryan who played Kyle Riker (Will's father) in Star Trek TNG passed away over the weekend. He was also known for his role as Dharma's father in Dharma and Gregg.

    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Some gameplay footage of that new Trek game surfaced: you can certainly see the Telltale Games lineage;




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,247 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    That looks really good. What Computer systems will that be availible on?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Double Star Trek Week! .. Again! 🙂



  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No spoilers or discussion, just a "Yes" or "No"

    Does Picard episode 2 keep the momentum, from last week?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    If momentum means.. like.. 'go fast', then Yes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 616 ✭✭✭eadrom


    Also if momentum means.. like.. "pretty good, actually!", then Yes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,471 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Yes, they somehow continue to know how to write. I find myself optimistic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    I only got to watch half of Picard episode 2 last night, but I was impressed with what I saw.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    This gave me a good chuckle, while a fairly good recreation of the shítty animation style of TAS; the bonus classic Simpsons gag was also gold




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 616 ✭✭✭eadrom


    Oh hell yeah! TMP Director's Edition out soon in 4K!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Re: the argument that always gets bandied about when the new shows face criticism - but ST has always been political




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,247 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Well that videos a load of bull. First off Discovery is not Star Trek at least in my mind it is not anyway so it does not change anything for my view of Star Trek.

    It is just any generic sci-fi show.

    Second of this was not made because Star Trek was dead. The 09 Star Trek film was the one made to get a franchise that had stagnated back on its feet and new fans into it. This rubbish was just made to take advantage of that.

    Anyway it only took me 3mins and 20 seconds to realise what a load of rubbish this video is. I think it is aimed at Americans more than us anyway.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Apparently Stacey Abrams - someone I'd know of but wouldn't recognise TBH, despite my interest in US politics - has been a life long Star Trek fan so good for her she got to cameo. That's pretty awesome

    I didn't lose my shít when John McCain or Joe Biden appeared in Parks and Recreation; or Tony Blair(!) appeared on the Simpsons (can't recall if that was before or after the Iraq War mind). this is far from the first cameo by a current politician, and definitely not the most controversial either.

    Let's not pretend any of us here wouldn't chew off a leg to have that chance of a walk on part. But something something liberals liberals. The politics Jim, the politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    I thought you were going to explain why the video was bull but then you went on to actually agree with some points the presenter made like how the new shows aren't real Trek. You agree with the man so I don't know where you're coming from. You didn't even watch the video anyway so how can you have an opinion on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Nobody lost their shít when John McCain or Joe Biden appeared in Parks and Recreation. Stop trying to prop yourself up on a pedestal.

    From what I read , it was the producers idea to reach out to Abrams. And she was only happy to agree, why wouldn't she. Its exposure for her and shes a running political candidate. . Lets cut the nonsense that they were offering a life long fan a dream role in her favourite franchise. It was a political statement made in a very politically charged time in America. Another thing , if The Orville cast Ron DeSantis as president of the galaxy and worshiped him as an omnipotent God , then you would see what people losing their **** really looks like.



  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That video is right in one key point.

    Generally Trek gave situations and characters which allowed the audience to think about and make a judgement, before Picard (or indeed Kirk) drove a message home.

    Discovery tells you from the off what you should think.


    I've always found that guiding people to an idea, naturally, is always better than telling them what they should do. If people come to an idea on their own it is THEIR idea and much more impactful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Right so first of all, you should watch the video because by and large he's making the same points as you, and while I agree with it in part, I don't agree in the whole.

    1. Star Trek was basically dead, with the exception of it's existing fanbase and the occasional new fan. We'd had no new Star Trek shows since Enterprise which while it got 4 seasons, didn't exactly set the world on fire or blow up. It had a pretty dedicated fan base (like Trek usually does) but got pushed off primetime viewing quite quickly.
    2. Discovery is Star Trek. I'm not a fan of the show at all, but mostly because the characters are poorly written and the show's focus is entirely on Burnham who is a complete Mary Sue type character. It is Star Trek though, they just marketed it as a TNG/TOS type show when it's not sadly.
    3. Star Trek has literally always been a left leaning and political show, the difference is that how it's always been portrayed was in a future where it's already happened. Discovery is very lazy and is clearly trying to be left leaning via check boxes over good writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    No pedestals buddy, just pointing out the selective controversy cos yet another politician appears in a TV show. But that's some extreme invention if you think DeSantis is comparable to Abrams in terms of the two politicans' relative positions and track records. But I don't think anyone else in this thread wants to read a segue about why a notable Voter Rights Advocate isn't a bad thing. In fact it's one of the few relatively apolitical concepts that could be presented without bias.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,954 ✭✭✭Evade


    When a common complaint about your series is that it's too overtly politically one sided it might not have been the best idea to bring on a politician from your side.

    In the past when they had life long fans of Star Trek that held government positions with interesting politics they just stuck him in a blue uniform and gave him no lines. The King, at the time Crown Prince, of Jordan was in the Voyager episode Investigations in case anyone was wondering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,602 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Had to turn it off when he started saying "woke"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Who's complaining though? No greater empty vessel than the raging YouTube essay TBH and if the viewer + subscriber numbers still say Discovery is a hit, who cares what a noisy demographic think re. "politics". And if there's one thing that is increasingly clear, it doesn't take much for a certain minority to stream Woke! Politics! Liberals! In some cases, it can be as little as who's cast as the lead.

    We've debated this before, and many times but Trek has always been as subtle as a hammer about its politics, it's simply that now "politics" has been magnified by the internet into a competitive sport, our media landscape fuelled by whipped up outrages. It's Recency Bias among other things; do we even have any posters here who were around when ToS originally aired?

    The only real difference is the writing surrounding the politics is worse than before, Discovery an embarrassment in terms of professional scriptwriting - but in a franchise where "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" was how it drew allegory can't be called a subtle, nuanced show about its poltiics.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,602 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I would just rather see Star Trek do an episode about voter suppression rather than flash a politician at us.

    Funny you brought up the Simpsons because it was the endless canoes ruined the show for me. Why did the movie have President Schwartzenegger when it should have been Wolfcastle in the Simpsons world.



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