Did the USA play a significantly negative role in events leading to Ukraine invasion?

The worst part of it you can't have a normal conversation about any subject these days without being bombarded with this random conspiracy stuff. Regardless of subject or forum.

This is thread about USA role in events up to invasion. There's been almost no talk of it. I means they obviously were trying to influence things in the elections. But ultimately with very limited success. Because polls after that did not really swing dramatically as a result. It has little influence in the how things have developed since then. There probably not enough USA involvement to make an interesting thread on it.

I think if the Russians had treated the Ukraine better, very little would have won them into a some form of military/economic partnership. But Putin can't share wealth or power. So perhaps that was never going to happen. It was always going to be the strong arm route.

Pretty much wiped out to today. They've fled to wherever they can in the city, the battle over.

From the videos online the entire city seems utterly destroyed.

Other reports are the civilians are being rounded up and sent to camps, some in Russia.

Limited Resistance, inside the blue areas. but overall the fight over. It may be delayed the fall announcement till the entire area is all cleared. It not take a week probably a few days at most.

I just checked that image, you're getting it from a Russian registered site.

You aware of that?

Indeed Mariupol might fall, but you have claimed it's already happened, source for that?

Western headlines

Russia signals scaled-back war aims as Ukrainians advance near Kyiv

@nytimes

: Russia signaled on Friday it may be reducing its war aims, announcing that it would now focus its forces on taking more territory in eastern Ukraine and that the goals of the “first stage of the operation” had been “mainly accomplished.”

"Russia thoroughly fooled them, and they determine this a sign of losing? They never understood what the Russians were up to cease with the mind games. Russia doesn’t have the personnel to surround Kyiv and go in yet..

They clustered the Russian army on absorbing Chernihiv, but idiots western media and others are so blind to that.

Instead of shifting forces from Kyiv. There’re likely talking about Mariupol now 99 percent in control by Russian forces DPR, Russian professional army, LPR, and Chechen fighters. Estimates of 30,000 or more soldiers engaged in that battle now join the battles near the Donbas region. 

If Russia was so successful it wouldn't still on the same spot on the map.

They now seem to be saying this was their plan along, and could be about to give up on Kyiv.

Sit back and observe the Olympic levels of mental gymnastics, whataboutery, creative writing and downright deception about to occur in this thread ;)

What's your source for claiming Mariupol had fallen yesterday? simple question

Likewise, what's your source for that map you posted?

Well given that no one has explained the conspiracy and seem to have no problem with Russia invading another country (and they tend to be the type who tie the invasion of Iraq into their fantasy world view of what happened on September the 11th), you'll have to excuse the doubt.

It's a conspiracy theory forum, not seeing the conspiracy here

That said, conspiracy theorists have a habit of blaming the US for pretty much everything under the sun. So I suspect this thread was created here to avoid the normal scrutiny on normal forums and instead get some validation from people with similar "enlightened" world views (don't trust the official narrative, the mainstream media, etc)