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VinLieger · 24-03-2022 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118828521#Comment_118828521

So that means hes one of their best assets.

briany · 24-03-2022 03:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829389#Comment_118829389

If everything the Kremlin says is a lie, someone should ask them if it's true Putin used to star in gay porn films to make ends meet after losing his job in the KGB.

Gatling · 24-03-2022 03:42PM

@Manic Moran I would remind you of the fate of RFA Sir Galahad, another landing ship. One wonders if this Russian one was still laden...

Naval experts have suggested that a fire broke out on board with ship which caused munitions cooked off and spread fire to other vessels,she was definitely "laden"

Akrasia · 24-03-2022 03:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118828477#Comment_118828477

I'm not sure the west threatening to starve Russian babies to death is a great look on those inevitable propaganda posters....

Gatling · 24-03-2022 04:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829588#Comment_118829588

They wouldn't be starving Russian children ,

Little or no mention of the Ukrainian children and babies starving ...

Oh joe think of the poor starving Russian children

Strazdas · 24-03-2022 04:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829280#Comment_118829280

This is typical of how the Russian media are reporting the war. It's nearly impossible for the Russian public to get any sort of handle on how the war is progressing. According to their press and TV, there are no Russian casualties, no Ukrainian civilian deaths, everything is going smoothly and the Russian troops are bringing humanitarian aid - it seems even worse than Nazi propaganda in WW2, who at least admitted there was a full scale war on and their own troops were taking casualties.

Manic Moran · 24-03-2022 04:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829527#Comment_118829527

But how much? There have been ammunition explosions on ships before, and there usually isn't much left of the ship three seconds later. If it was at the end of the unloading cycle, then not much was lost.

Indeed, it's worth noting that such ammunition explosions during cargo handling tend to happen by worker error, not enemy action. Witness the Halifax and Port Chicago explosions, for example, and those were wartime incidents. RFA Bedenham managed to blow up in Gibraltar in the early 1950s during peacetime operation. Not to say that the Ukrainians didn't actually hit the ship, but self-inflicted wounds when handling munitions is not impossible.

TheValeyard · 24-03-2022 04:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829672#Comment_118829672

The good kind though.

DrumSteve · 24-03-2022 04:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829648#Comment_118829648

They really are approaching this like they can't be hurt.

Akrasia · 24-03-2022 04:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829629#Comment_118829629

The sanctions don't include food, and yet people are on here saying western companies shouldn't sell baby formula to Russia

Whatever about Nestle's sh1tty practises promoting unsuitable formula too heavily despite the fact that it caused many babies to die from contaminated water, all that is beside the fact that withdrawing supplies of baby formula, due to public pressure, is not going to help end the war, and is only going to harm newborn babies, and give Putin a propaganda victory

Gregor Samsa · 24-03-2022 04:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829588#Comment_118829588

Nobody had threatened to starve Russian babies to death. The baby food thing is a complete and utter red herring. First off, sanctions or calls for boycotts aren't targeting essential food and medicine.

Secondly even if baby food was included in any of this, processed baby food is as essential as microwavable dinners or those Rustlers hamburgers that come pre-assembled in a packet. Weaned babies are perfectly capable, and nutritionally much better off, eating real, proper food - prepared by boiling, mashing or pureeing for their lack of teeth. Younger babies are obviously much better off breast-fed.

The weakened Ruble is a much bigger blocker to Russians buying relatively expensive imported baby food than any sanctions or boycotts.

ronivek · 24-03-2022 04:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829660#Comment_118829660

It seemed to have some ammunition still on board at least; the last shipment seemed to contain a number of BMPs rather than purely crates and crates of ordinance.

There is a clip which appears to show an initial explosion in the absence of any fire; but it wasn’t a large explosion. Personally my money is on a TB-2 strike or some sort of accidental discharge or failure of some kind.

24-03-2022 04:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829629#Comment_118829629

I do feel sorry for the people of Russia who are being impacted by the abhorrent actions of Putin and the Russian government.

You'd need to be some sort of heartless bastard to not.

listermint · 24-03-2022 04:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118828878#Comment_118828878

But but but.

The Tory government have done probably more than any other European power to cater for Russia money swimming into their country. They have taken donations directly into the party proper and to individual party politicians. Hell they have put a Russian millionaire with direct KGB links into their house of Lords.

Anyone who thinks the Tory party are not up to their absolute ears on slush money sourced from across Russia needs their reading and reason capabilities assessed.

None of the provisions of equipment or cash from the same government absolves them of the truth or history over the last decade or more in London.

White washing it wont work horse.

24-03-2022 04:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829797#Comment_118829797

Well the people of Russia know what to do then if they want the live they became accustomed to back.

listermint · 24-03-2022 04:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829797#Comment_118829797

My heart bleeds .. .. ..

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2022 04:47PM

Im hearing on the wires the Snake Island soldiers were exchanged for Russian POW's those snaky feckers will live to fight another day on Snake Island

Homelander · 24-03-2022 04:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829797#Comment_118829797

It's also important to note then that there's a significant portion of the population support Putin and action against Ukraine. That is part of the problem.

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2022 04:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829852#Comment_118829852

there is also a portion of most countries that sympathizes with Putin trying to restore the empire to its former glory, they tend to be current or former communists

ronivek · 24-03-2022 04:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829797#Comment_118829797

For the babies and children who had no choice over where they were born absolutely; likewise for those who voted against or otherwise protested against Putin and the Kremlin; but for the adults who voted for and handed Putin his power not so much.

Gatling · 24-03-2022 04:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829854#Comment_118829854

It's better than nothing ,

I'm sure ambulances are Badly needed ,I seen the Danes and Norwegians sent fire engines too

DrumSteve · 24-03-2022 04:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829854#Comment_118829854

You've heard of the NLAW.

Now witness the power of the Mee-MAW.

Gatling · 24-03-2022 04:59PM

@ronivek There is a clip which appears to show an initial explosion in the absence of any fire; but it wasn’t a large explosion. Personally my money is on a TB-2 strike .

If it was hit by a bomb or missle their would have been a larger initial explosion going by what experts are saying ,the consensus seems to be a fire set off munitions on the ship.

Not even the Ukrainians are claiming they did it

TheTruth89 · 24-03-2022 05:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829588#Comment_118829588

At this point they are so insulated and pumped full of propaganda it wouldn't make a difference, also since when is nestle the only source of baby food ?

24-03-2022 05:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118828898#Comment_118828898

Aye that's the one. As others have said most equipment seems to be designed to just about work but always, and if it breaks it just needs a few knocks and tape and it'll go again. Fine against people dug in trenches 100 years ago.

I have to admit though I'm pretty baffled at just how bad so much Russian stuff is though. I assumed since GLONASS exists and they're responsible for NASA launches etc. that the tech in the country would be excellent but it really does look like they just have their own super-basic stuff (comms over an unencrypted open radio channel, I mean come on t'****) and little else. There's sometimes a clear difference between civil and military technology, sometimes not. GPS being the usual example. Technically it's still military but everyone uses it day to day. It seems they've barely, if at all developed their technology and research and production in the last 3 decades. Their consumer tech is mostly imported as well. Once they're out of their home environment when they can plug a phone in to charge it like any of us would they've got nothing for the field.

24-03-2022 05:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829892#Comment_118829892

Absolutely. I am not espousing concern for people who are in favour of what Russia are doing at the moment.

I Blame Sheeple · 24-03-2022 05:04PM

is the dead hand system still a viable option for Russia or is that just cold war mythology that was never disproved and is likely to not function in today's world?

Boggles · 24-03-2022 05:08PM

The most hilarious part is Nestle claim they are not making a profit on supplying food and "medicines" (supplements) to Russia.

Fúck off Nestle. 🙄

html6 · 24-03-2022 05:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829930#Comment_118829930

I would like to know that if it were to exist is there a jammer developed to counter it.

TheTruth89 · 24-03-2022 05:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118829797#Comment_118829797

I don't feel sorry for ones out cheering on Putin's little Nazi rally tribute, tbh from what I've seen the Russian people don't seem to be too bothered or atleast not enough to go out enmass and protest and topple the government, then you have there police force that happily keep Putin in power you d have to question what morals those people have.

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