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Pat Spillane..

  • 21-03-2022 4:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Usually avoid him but watched the rte gaa highlights yesterday. What exactly is wrong with spillane? He made a snide remark to his co presenter, the recently retired Mayo player Keith Higgins i think, about the 2012 final which they lost to donegal. Cantwell pulled him up on it.

    Later in the same show Cantwell made an observation about Kerry's team selection last year and spillane's response was thats in the past!

    Is spillane the biggest ars*hole on rte and why dont they get rid of him?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    He is a pain at best of times. He should have got his p45 over a decade ago.

    Adds nothing but snide remarks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Totally. Doesnt offer anything of value. Totally ignorant of the game today and is proud of that for some weird reason.

    How on earth is he employed by rte?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Completely past his sell by date, and O'Rourke too, RTE badly need to freshen up their coverage and unearth new commentators too, Ger Canning is brutal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭mcgragger


    Eamonn Fitz is good. He knows his stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Switched over to the Tyrone game on Saturday, heard the Fitzmaurice drone and switched right back to the rugby again. How in the **** did that man get past a soundtest?

    I doubt even RTE themselves could tell you why Spillane is still there, they should have done a proper clear out when finally jettisoning Brolly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,797 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Pat hasn’t played inter-county football for 30 years, Colm O’Rourke 26 years.

    be better for the coverage and analysis if they’d both be ushered aside and have a completely younger and more adept contributors in their positions… he’s a hard listen when he gets on a rant. But he’s not a good analyst. A smart arse who used to play football and was successful at it, actually a brutal pundit though..



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Get rid of Cantwell too please!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Rossie11


    It was Colm Boyle who was on. In Spillane's defence I think he was trying to be funny but knew he was wrong immediately

    and said "Sorry I shouldn't have said that, I apologise Colm".

    Agree though he should be gone a few years now at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    He can’t handle it when Kerry lose either, completely melted a few times, especially when they lost the semi final to Tyrone last season



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭jimwallace197


    However long its been since Spillane played intercounty, at least he can back it up with the amount of All Irelands he's won, on top of this, he was one of the best players of his generation. What has a Mayo player ever achieved? Id rather have pundits who've been there & done it rather than pretenders. He wants the game to be played in a certain way, he's a purist & theres nothing wrong with that considering some of the hand passing nonsense that passes for top level Gaelic football these days.

    Even in the skysports coverage of the premier league, they still have Souness & Keane to a lesser degree who havent played professional football for 30 years & nearly 20 years respectively.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭lalababa


    He's not the worst....be careful what you wish for etc. Hes a bit of craic aswell (a bit mad) and is prone to a silly rant or two. You'd tend to watch him getting red in the face whilst someone else is talking. An out in out pure kerry extroverted eejit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭quidel7


    The wettings he has gotten this year might hasten his retirement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭quidel7


    The commentary of Ger and Marty is past its sell by date. Would consider it more professional if they used players proper names and not waffle on about how they got their nicknames. Some new recruits wouldn’t do any harm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭zetecescort




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭jimwallace197


    Would fully agree with the sentiment of be careful what you wish for. Take RTE coverage of Irish international football for example, we used to have Dunphy, Giles & Brady, now we have Sadlier, Duff, K.Cunningham etc. I know which team id prefer & the vast majority of the public too.

    Get Brolly back too, was disgraceful how he was removed, wasnt afraid to say what he thought. Won player of the year too previously. Get rid of these over promoted sanitized pundits. Pundits with pedigree behind them & a backbone make it all the more interesting. Of course the usual diehards wont like it but thats life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭thesultan


    Spillane better than Cavenagh who starts to shout when anyone questions Tyrone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Dunphy, Giles and Brady was a good pairing with the BBC/ITV alternative but descended into farce at the very end.

    The problem now with Football is that the Spillane, O'Rourke, Brolly era ended long ago and there is endless sources now than in say 2009. Also the soccer pundits didn't actively harm the reputation of their sport. The Football one has had more influence.

    Sure the Football analysis elsewhere can be bland on occasion but the sport badly needs a bit of balance to what goes on on RTE and whats then taken as gospel on social media.



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    He was showing the new guy who is boss. He was banging his chest showing everyone who is the Alpha male.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    His rant to Sean Kavanagh last year about Tyrone being ‘cuter hoors’ than Kerry re the deferring of the semi final was the last straw…….last night I also noted on two occasions cantwell directed a question to Colm Boyle but ‘pit’ decided to jump in and answer it…….such is his self importance….😡😡😡



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭billyhead


    Ciaran Whelan is a good pundit. Dessie Dolan was too. What happened to him. Did he not have the time anymore?



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭quidel7


    Oisin McConville, Ciaran Whelan and Tomas O’Se were the three I’d enjoy listening to mainly. Doubt with Tomas being involved with Offaly he will be heard this season.



  • Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭SecretsOfEarth


    Agree that Whelan is fairly good, but Dessie Dolan is absolutely dreadful imo. His co-commentary is among the worst.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Staleturnips


    There are many, many things to cringe about with Ger & Marty but you've absolutely hit the nail on the head with their obsession of using nicknames.

    They have some annoying way of using players nicknames as if they are unique to Irish culture, in particular GAA culture and that the nickname refers to some profound quality attributed to the respective player.

    They'll also try to shoehorn in some additional cringeworthy horseshite, like that players father and grandfather had the same nickname bestowed upon them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Marty’s favourites……

    1. Good hands - usually referring to a catch or these days in hurling a hand/throw pass.
    2. He/she shortens the grip
    3. he/she gives the sliotar an ‘all mighty belt’
    4. well gathered - which is a good catch I think
    5. and of course the constant references to player nick-names and their origin


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭tastyt


    Jesus Marty and his nicknames


    “ here come the Bonnar Maher , go on the Bonnar “

    ” into Bubbles , oh that’s magic from Bubbles “


    and back in the day it was always cha this and cha that .


    And Canning is a worse commentator if that’s possible



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    The rugby punditry has gone the same way on RTE. In an all out effort to seem cool Heaslip finds it hard to string basic sentences together and Ferris doesn't have an opinion, he just says what he thinks his bosses want to hear. A cheerleader of sorts. Eddie O'Sullivan will eventually slip up and get himself cancelled.

    Quinlan is the same on Virgin media. An almighty talent for speaking without actually saying anything. It's really impressive to be honest.

    I hate Spillane but it is a case of careful what you wish for. RTE will eventually get the gender balance they want so you'll have fewer individuals on show who actually know what's it like to play the game at the level you're watching. Also, the analysts will be so stultified by trying to not cause offence they'll say nothing. Zero authenticity in the broadcast.

    Jesus it's terrifying to be pining for the likes of George Hook, Eamon Dunphy and Joe Brolly!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    The list for best pundits on my opinion

    oisin mconville

    ciaran whelan

    Thomas O’Shea

    colm cooper

    Colm Boyle . ( very good on the radio but too few appearances on tv really )

    after that I’d draw the line



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Dolan is selector with Westmeath. Thank god for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Would agree with them three. I like Fitzmaurice and McStay not the worse(to be fair managed at intercounty). Gooch and Cavanagh are terrible, offer nothing . Would like to see Dara O'Cinneide as presenter. Cantwall and Cahill are brutal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    And don't where ever is is been played. He will come out"down town Killarney"etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    He was nearly crying when they lost to Tyrone in 03 and came out with the bitter puke football jibe and last year was the cute hoor nonsense. kerry can be beaten by the better team. Loves the sound of his own voice and offers no analysis on modern game, all about pursuing his own agendas. Should have been shipped out 15 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Brollys opinion was based solely on what he thought would antagonise people the most, more fool anybody who thinks they were getting honest thoughts from him. Nothing but a snide little troll.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    And will someone teach canning how to pronounce Osisn ffs, it's not O-sheen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,721 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    They are all fairly shite tbh and you rarely get any insight from any of them, whether they are recent players or not. Fitzmaurice probably the best of a bad bunch

    Pointing out that "the win today will give the team a welcome boost going into a tough game next week", pointing out that the player who scored 6 points "had a great game" or pointing out the team that conceded 20pts have "work to do in their defense" is neither analytical nor insightful, and that's usually the level of "analysis" that you are treated to



  • Registered Users Posts: 845 ✭✭✭Denny61


    Tbh I prefer spillane. He says it like it is ...too Many pc snowflakes can't deal with that..honest to goodness criticism...the rest put Me in a coma



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Eamonn Fitz, jesus wept. The man would make millions if he did podcasts for insomniacs. He's so droll he'd make watching paint dry seem exciting by comparison. He is definitely not suitable for tv or radio. Perhaps if he can type he could try a newspaper column but that would be it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,847 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    have to agree. As bad as things are, we don’t want or need brolly back. The wannabe eamo dunphy of the gaa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,044 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    All Irelands won 30+ years ago mean nothing when analyzing a game in 2022



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,847 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I had the pleasure of being in the company of Spillane and a number of other legends of the game about ten years ago in a golf club. I was there by chance but fell into their company.

    Spillane is a living encyclopaedia of football. I often think radio would be a better medium for Spillane. Given time and space he is a very shrewd analyst.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman


    Talking shite down the golf club where they're well used to hot air and self-importance - perfect place for him!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Spillane's snide remark to the ex Mayo footballer proves that spillane should definitely not be on tv



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭joe35


    What I don't like about RTE is it always seems to be forwards analysing the game.

    Football has become very defensive and yet the never praise the work rate or analyse the defensive system.


    Always remember Spillane saying, if Colm Cooper wasn't playing well, "it's because Kerry aren't getting good quality ball into him"


    Cooper was being marked out of the game, but no way was it the corner forwards fault. Will never give credit to the defense



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    No sign of spillane on last nights highlights show. Have RTE finally copped on and binned him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    He will never be on when Kerry lose or will have a bitter taste in his mouth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,393 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Missed opportunity by RTE if they havent binned spillane. Its a far more watchable show when he's not on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    McConville is top class, whether he's on Telly, Radio or any podcast (and he does seem to be on a lot) but he's very insightful, and calls out bullshit when he hears it. I'd have him as top of the pile.

    Whelan is a good analyst of the game too, as is Tomás. Cooper is only OK to be honest. I've not seen Boyle on the TV but he is good on Radio and podcasts too. He's very new to it and he does need to polish up a little on the delivery but the insight is very strong.

    I really do like Eamon Fitz on Co comms - he doesn't have the most exciting voice to listen to but he would in my view be ahead of the rest on Co-Comms. What he has to say is very insightful and he adds a lot in terms of pointing out subtleties in the game that are more often than not missed by others.

    Kevin McStay is good in spots - he does some in-depth stuff at times which is very very good and is, to my mind, the only one that can do so on RTE at any level near to what Canavan does on Sky (which is far and above anything RTE can do). Kevin is not good on co-comms however. To be fair to Kevin he's one of the only one of the older bunch that has had the stones to get involved in management.

    Spillane can be OK at times but he's part of the history of the game now and is a bit cliché ridden. To biased to really be considered seriously anymore.

    I'd nearly say the same about Seán Cavanagh. Not sure he adds much other than arguing with Spillane when Spillane tries to throw a dig in about Tyrone. Pretty sure he was lining himself up for the job when he was coming to the end of his career with the fawning guff angles of his comments that were being published.

    I really don't know how RTE can justify using or paying Colm O'Rourke - if a lad has any sort of personal style other than a short-back-and-sides haircut and Sunday-going-to-mass shoes he'll have some comment about it. The game, how people express themselves, and the training has moved on so far from what this guy knows about that you'd nearly expect the old Pathé reel logo to appear when he's about to talk. He seems to get all his guidance from the era of Archbishop John McQuaid.

    Dessie Dolan - "you'd have to say" that he just isn't at the races at all.

    Pauric Lodge is probably the best of the Commentators in terms of being able to tell you what's happening. Darragh Maloney is decent without being in any way exceptional.

    I find Ger Canning and Marty Morrissey to be quite annoying.

    Cantwell is OK - she'll never be a Michael Lyster though.

    It's a shame really as when you look through the list above, The ones that get the greatest number of appearances are the ones that should be put out to pasture.

    Thank god for TG4 (who's commentary and analysis is very very good) otherwise our license fee would be hugely misappropriated for the GAA coverage. The shame there is that so many people don't understand it. I'm fortunate enough in that regard.

    Personally when it comes to watching games my preference is to watch on TG4 or Sky Sports. They offer a much better package and in game analysis. If only they would do a "League Sunday" format show too, now that would be something else.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Colm O'Rourke is as dull as dishwater, I think he's far worse than Spillane.

    The RTE hurling line-up is much stronger than the football one IMO.



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