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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The 2.5 year siege of Leningrad (St Petersburg) was particularly savage. Over a million civilians dying of starvation. The Finnish army also helped the Germans encircle the city.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    The dystopia is as hilarious as it is chilling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Gary kk


    Why did they invade through what is like just a muddy season even if he thought they would mostly hand keys over surly waiting until he could use the amour on the plains and not just roads, the was / is stupid. Right back to the armchair now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    No but the yuan could still replace or at least be a co reserve currency globally


    They have been buying gold and commodities for 20 years in order to give it a partial Hard currency element.


    It's not about what we want but what one thinks could happen.

    The dollar and the Euro have been going mad on the magic money tree for 15 years, who knows what that will bring.


    China is a much more brutal and nastier version of anything Putin could dream of.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭myfreespirit


    Let us hope that the assistance that with western intelligence and armaments, the Ukrainian armed forces manage to inflict horrendous casualties on the Russian invaders.

    Was just watching Channel 4 News, showing the horrible attacks on civilian targets in Kyiv, and the remains of the theatre in Mariupol, where 1,300 civilians are reported missing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,822 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde






  • I read story's like that and I just want fire and brimstone to rain down on the Kremlin. And personally speaking I don't care of the consequences. Let Putin feel the same to his nearest and dearest.

    Obviously, this is emotive and not the best response but it's hard to feel anything but anger when you see such needless and pointless suffering.

    Its incredibly frustrating to feel like nothing can be done by the west to stop this with the nuclear threat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    We've just given our bathroom a facelift...


    putin toilet paper.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭thomil


    No, just no. My Sh*t would deserve better than to be exposed to THAT!!!

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    It's causing me unreasonable anxiety that this thread is past 1000 pages and hasn't been closed yet... Forgot about new boards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Well if it's any consolation, right now Vlad was expecting to be doing victory parades with Russian tanks through Kiev, instead Russia has become an isolated global pariah, it's having to deal with some of the harshest sanctions and measures ever slapped on a nation and Putin is staring down the barrel of a quagmire in Ukraine. No matter what happens, that legacy will always follow him from now on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The Chinese are strategically streets ahead in terms of dominating the world's natural resources into the future. Their best graduates are brought into a think tank to work out the best ways to dominate in the future.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,479 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Possibly, yet dispite their image. China is in no way a United country and could easily fracture apart.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Alexei Milchakov is a Russian neo-Nazi, who commanded the so-called ‘Batman’ Spetsnaz Rapid Response Unit operating out of Luhansk that reported directly to the GRU. this is where he won the reputation of being a sadist and is known for his barbarity fighting against Ukraine in Donbas, 2014-15. A level of depravity akin to the SS-Dirlewanger Brigade. I'm not surprised as he was convicted in his native St Petersburg over his sadistic cruelty to animals. Milchakov was an instructor in a camp where 300 young Russians were trained to be fighters in the Moscow region. The subversive and reconnaissance military group 'Rusich' which includes Russian nationalists set up by him was also utilized the training of young and old recruits, and waq present in Donbas. In addition to this Milchakov went on to fight with the Wagner Group in Syria

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    Yulia Kharlamova (born in Odessa) is a neo-nazi well-known in nationalist circles and is a member of the Orthodox-fascist troopers org "Lambs of Blue Sky". She participated in neo-fascist congresses under the nickname "Nordica". Kharlamova served with Russian Airborne forces where she underwent full combat training and serving with Unit 54164 Moscow Region and 38 Separate Parachute Brigade. She served in Donbas and swerved as part of Milchako Rusich unit in the Luhansk region. She is believed to be a GRU officer who was actively involved in the riot in Kyiv at the national guard, who recruited soldiers and participants for protests orchestrated by her essential for ‘planned’ clandestine military activities.

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    Milchakov and Kharlamova have been togoether for a wile and are now married. I can't find a wedding photo.

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    In 2017, five Russian diplomats of the GRU were expelled from Moldova as strong intelligence proved they were recruiting fighters in Gagauzia which is an autonomous region in south Moldova, known for the large number of people that share pro-Russian views. Recruits were then sent to a military camp in the Rostov region of Russia which is on the border of Ukraine

    In Belarus, the Russian National Unity (RNE) organization recruited and trained anti-Ukrainian Belarusian militants, to fight in Donbas on the side of Russian-backed separatists. Younger recruits were lured and brought on trips to military and patriotic camps in the territory of Russia where the young recruits were trained to fight and be indoctrinated further. The Russian nationalist group E.N.O.T. headed by two FSB officers has also conducted events in Russia in which young people from Belarus attended.

    Its obvious the Kremlin has been heavily arming and training these nationalist and neo nazi militant groups that are intertwined with Russia and their aggression in the occupied regions. No doubt more private mercenaries will be brought in to help this failing invasion.

    De-Nazifying me hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Russia Propaganda or a prelude to a further escalation?

    Russian Ministry of defense accuse Ukraine: in preparations of attack on western diplomats in L'viv, in planting explosives at cylinders with ammonium and chlorine in Sumy, deploying cylinders with chemicals to school in Kotlarovo village of Mykolaiv region

    https://liveuamap.com/

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭rogber


    It's not consolation compared to what Ukrainians are going through.

    It's an ugly emotion but I too would feel grim satisfaction to hear of several missiles being launched into Moscow from wherever, let the ignorant Russian citizens (not all of them,but many) get a taste of what their government is doing elsewhere.

    Like the bombing of Dresden: yeah, it's brutal, but sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭Polar101


    That's pretty pathetic. But wasn't there an issue with the ex-DDR Strela (aka SA-7) missiles which Ukraine requested, that they had been in storage for too long to be usable?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    The Romanov tsarist dynasty collapsed from the top, not the bottom. So did the Communist imperium.

    There is no reason to think that the Putinist kleptocracy will not follow the same pattern. i.e. we shouldn't be looking to the Russian street but more to the people in the shadows near the apex of their power vertical. Little discussion of this anywhere thus far...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Still looks a bleak enough end to this invasion Ukraine are fighting great but the chances of them pushing Russia back and out seem remote .I tune in each morning hopeing something has stirred against Putin but that seems wishful thinking .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,037 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Seems like downright carelessness......one , two or even three at a push.... but 9 ????😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Go out to feed the ewes for 10 minutes and come back to find 2 more Russian Generals dead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Jamie Bryson deciding to make whataboutery an art form


    BBC obviously not covering the story enough lately so - any chance to GET IN THERE - Jamie will pounce

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    what are the chances of revolt in some of the southern/ South eastern republics. Chechnya, Kazakhstan, Georgia etc. With the main army stretched in Ukraine they may never have a better opportunity to strike a blow. Hard to credit that Russia is able to maintain such a huge landmass with such a decrepit military. There must be areas of Russia that are wide open to invasion at this moment in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭liamtech




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,037 ✭✭✭jmreire


    You can be damn sure that if the Americans are sharing intel, and publicly announcing it, it's no accident. Its deliberate and planned, its meant to have an effect, like a msg to Putin,,,, See Vladimir, what we know? Now guess how we know????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,826 ✭✭✭threeball


    Yesterday was the day to do it. Right into that stadium while Putin was holding his nazi rally.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭thomil


    True, things look bleak and Russia has the advantage in any war of attrition, so on the face of it, you're right. However, that is not the whole story here. Russia needs to get Ukraine under its control to succeed, meaning defeating the Ukrainian army and installing a regime of occupation that would likely be internationally isolated and faced with an ongoing and vicious guerrilla campaign. Its present army does not seem to be capable of achieving that goal, both because of intense defensive efforts by Ukraine and their ongoing morale and discipline issues. In previous conflicts, an attacking army would have paused, consolidated their logistics and regrouped, and have adapted their battle plan to reflect the new situation. The Red Army did this numerous times in WW2 when fighting the Germans. However, given the strict hierarchical nature of the Russian Army, the peacetime rot, corruption and nepotism in its command structure and the dominance of Kremlin-connected yes men in the senior command staff, I have my doubts whether Russia will be able to pull this off. This is all the more true in a hostile environment where roaming infantry and anti-tank squads present an ever present risk to supply lines and where seemingly every tree has a camera-equipped smartphone that reports movements back to Ukrainian authorities.

    Contrast that with Ukraine. They reformed their military post 2014, emphasising operational autonomy in the field, meaning that unit commanders don't need to check every potential move with HQ. The eight year brushfire war in the Donbas has produced a large cadre of battle-hardened soldiers, offices & NCOs, quite a few of which have worked their way up the ranks since then. Their supply chains are secure, they have excellent battlefield awareness thanks to their access to US satellite imagery, air-search & ground surveillance radar provided by US & NATO E-3 AWACS & E-8 Joint STARS aircraft, NATO ELINT & SIGINT assets, not to mention an extremely well orchestrated information warfare campaign that utilises amongst other things social media chat bots that allow citizens to send photo & video straight to the military. Their Air Force, whilst somewhat degraded in capability, is still operational on a daily basis and significant parts of the Ukrainian air defence net are also still operational.

    For Ukraine to "win", it simply needs to survive long enough for Russia to bleed itself dry to such a degree that additional reinforcements would require mobilisation (likely not going to be popular and a potential flashpoint for the Russian Populace), or withdrawing forces from other regions (Caucasus, Central Asia, Far East) to a point were said areas were no longer secure from local uprisings or even vulnerable to invasion. That means selling every kilometre of ground as dearly as possible for the Russians, whilst minimising their own military casualties. I know this sounds callous, but that is, in my eyes at least, the current big picture situation. Ukraine has a long, bloody uphill struggle ahead of it, but I do believe that there is a slim, but realistic chance that they might "win" this.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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