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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Thats just because there's too many middlemen and parasites who need to be paid. A lot of them could be got rid of as they don't do anything but they've cemented their position kinda like Joe Duffy.

    De government could buy 1-3 jiggawatts worth of solar panels for cheap and a few containers full of inverters and start handing them out to people on the condition that they leave them installed for 15 years. This would put a real dent in the amount of non renewable power generation required during the day but all the vested interests would campaign against it. It would probably pay for itself in avoiding EU fines



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    You did not answer my question for the fourth time. My question was;

    How many seats do the Green Party have in government and how many of them are at the cabinet table. The way you keep spinning/spoofing the Greens have a kung fu/Medici like grip over the country but in the same rant you claim their muppets, which is it.

    you have not answered this at all only deflected again with something else

    a classic move seen time and time again,

    Your rumbled!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Your party is no different to the rest, totally out of touch with a massive majority of people in the country.

    But the leader of your party seems to think that there is nothing outside of Dublin or the big cities when he spouts about trains and public transport and bicycles.

    Also shouting about the carbon footprint while jetting off to new York for his paddies day holidays.

    Finally I agreed with and totally thought the change to smokeless fuel was great and was all I used but thanks to the tax,vat and now another carbon tax most people I know are going to be cutting turf this year and stocking up on the cheap coal so it's a bit of an own goal imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    As I said on the thread, the Greens are not "my party". I just have bothered to read their policies, felt some of them are really good. But I am also aware of the environment and want to try change the way we live now so in the future that people will look back and say "actually they tried to help us". I don't understand with all the information we have available now that a nation would prefer to still act like a dirty pig and leave a mess behind them for someone else to fix.

    It reminds me of the reaction when MM said he was going to ban smoking in pubs, the reaction was incredible. This was never going to work. They got huge kick back and then afterwards, "F**K me this is great".

    As a nation we just need to work through this and drag people with us till we get to the "F**k me this is great" phase.

    To answer a few direct questions, the flight to US is to promote Ireland, we need to keep jobs etc. Plus a plane is the lowest CO2 output for moving large numbers of people over distance. They done a study of driving from London to Glasgow(I think) or flying. Flying was better.

    Read the Green policies in terms of outside Dublin.

    The Greens are a small party who are 2 years in government. They cannot change the World economy.

    I always thought this was a very powerful ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5jNv391rk



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    🤦‍♂️

    The comment was about the Charlie account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    In regards to the post earlier about solar only works 3 months a year. 9 in the morning and I am already off the grid with solar PV.

    This is the 18th of March and my panels are on SW roof so not even in direct sun light yet


    Screenshot 2022-03-19 at 09.20.06.png




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    What has the wind power generation the last few days lads. Its been really calm.

    I'd reckon not much.

    What happens in a storm situation.

    Are the turbines locked up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    No idea on wind at the moment, but if low thats why we need solar with wind

    In a storm some wind turbines cannot handle the additional wind so they can stop them spinning so they don't go too fast and get damage. Stopping them is all done remote of course



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    A lot of people shouting and roaring about Eamonn Ryan is this, that and the other. The two biggest complaints is about him saying to slow down and car sharing.

    Seems old Eamo was ahead of the game. The IEA have come out with these ideas on how to reduce oil usage at the moment.

    https://www.iea.org/reports/a-10-point-plan-to-cut-oil-use



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭funnyname




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,241 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If Eamon Ryan refused to go to New York because it involved a transatlantic flight, the same people would be on here to lambast him for abdication of duty for putting Irelands trade and political relationship with the US at risk

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Damned if you do and damned if you don't it would seem

    You can imagine the outcry from everyone is one of the leaders rejected an invite from the US or another country on St Patrick day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭yer man!


    That's actually class. How many panels would you need for this? I want to get this on my house but always had a perception that it could never handle the full load of the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    So if that's the actual output. And renewables are generating so much.

    Why is the unit price of electricity on the upward trajectory all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Those definitely aren’t the two biggest complaints against Eamo and his merry band.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    How many times has it been mentioned in the last few weeks about his recommendation to slow down, how many times is it fired up about him saying to car share.

    It just shows that people are very easy to try and ridicule the Greens but the actual idea's are perfectly sane.

    The other one of course is about the lettuce, but if you watch the full video it is about mental health during lockdown. That story never gets told.

    I am sure you will see some parties now out trying to sell these idea's as their own now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Ah so it’s ok for him to damage the environment because it helps Ireland economically etc.


    Bit it’s not ok to that damage the environment in looking for LNG that could help Ireland economically etc because…….???


    Either both are bad for the environment and climate change or both aren’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,331 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Posted the same yesterday. Proof that Eamon is the Messiah and can do no wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Yeah that’s great and all but they aren’t the two biggest reasons people are pissed off at Eamon Ryan and the Green Party at the moment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    I put on 19 panels, this is what it is at now as the sun has moved closer to the panels. Now don't get me wrong it is a clear sunny day today.

    The boards PV chats here are an excellent source, also a group of facebook with a few of the boards users and also other people. Loads of advice on the best bang for buck if going that direction. A lot of rip off merchants in market.

    P.S. the base load in my house is twice a normal house so that's why more panels was better

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Sorry but if you don't understand the difference between the two then I will be of little help trying to explain it to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,241 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Because gas is so expensive. Power stations that are fueled by expensive raw materials only operate when the price they get from selling the electricity exceeds the cost of buying the fuel and operating the plant. Because renewables can cover much of the baseload at very low marginal cost of production, when abundant wind and solar power is available the gas and coal plants shut down

    It's only when demand exceeds supply and the unit price of wholesale electricity increases, that the gas and coal plants begin operating.

    The fact that oil and coal plants take time to 'spin up' and spin down means for a few hours, many days of the year. Wind turbines are paid by the grid to stop generating energy to maintain the grid

    In the future, where we are plugged into the EU grid and do not have to rely on gas and coal turbines, we will be able to store excess power and not have to waste our generating capacity while simultaneously burning expensive fuel that is driving climate change.

    Adding more gas to the generation mix won't reduce the price of electricity, reducing the price of electricity will drive out gas from the energy mix as it won't be profitable to burn gas anymore.

    The fossil fuel industry will call for more subsidies to ensure 'security' but that won't reduce the cost to the general consumer as the subsidies have to be funded by the tax payer

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    I mentioned it here a few times and I have talked to guy in the UK grid. The biggest issue with a grid and the high cost is peaks. I gave the example, which they gave me, about 4 million people watching a tv program and then flicking on a kettle at hte break. That is a killer for the grid, the plan is smart meter will help to resolve that

    Spinning up nuclear/coal/gas whatever for these peaks cost the grid. That's why a wind/solar/renewable balanced grid is what every country wants. That of course can involved electric cars and batteries to help in the future. So your car will also just be a big electricity storage unit.

    Excellent post by the way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Who denies that the climate changes? Nobody, it’s just a silly phrase that the globalists have instilled in your brain to make you feel superior for believing their farce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Maybe I am reading the post incorrect, but are you denying climate change? that's the way it read to me

    Why would anyone feel "superior" because they believe in climate change?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,067 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    You still haven’t explained why it’s better to leave the grid using foreign gas backup from now until 2050 instead of looking for our own gas backup that we could use until 2050.

    Until you answer this your talking pony.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel




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