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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Washington and Kyiv have been forced to respond to claims that biolaboratories were set up.

    Russia Accuses US Of 'Experimenting With Bat Coronavirus Samples' In Ukraine

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I agree.

    But.

    Over 2 million Ukrainians live in Russia.

    It's only a matter of time before the war reaches Moscow.

    Whether that will be a good or bad thing in the over all scheme of things I'm so sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Kamala Harris is really in over her head as Vice President touring Europe during a time of war and crisis...it doesn't give me confidence in the US taking the lead in the response to Russia. Biden is forgetful and Harris clearly isn't up to speed with the delicacies of the situation, the implications for global economic infrastructures or the consequences of the fall out going forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Wikipedia fast with the edits (this is the Ukrainian who found an abandoned anti-missile system in his local forest)




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    Well to follow on from your analogy, I might be in my home or any one of many other homes all over the country, it will be difficult for the Russians to control the territory. The Russians don't even have 10-1 in military vs Ukraine. The Ukrainians are armed with more advanced weapons and are much more motivated. I don't see how the Russians can subdue and control the country, which is ultimately what winning would look like for them. If they install a puppet do you think the military will row in behind them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Shite analogy tbf. In fact it's the other way around. Your ten attackers have pistols.. You've got an RPG, grenade launchers and an M4 with lots of rounds and a night vision scope.


    The notion the Russian military have anything but numbers and ancient equipment at this point is bizarre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Or we could do all of that. Changing a street name is amusing at best, but it's still sending a message. Liveline listeners can talk about the street name for the years to come (how that stopped Putin and ensured world peace), while the actual aid sent to Ukraine or elsewhere will help people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It was never going to happen anytime soon anyway. They'll be lucky to get an in-principle nod but they are keen to keep up the message. Under normal circumstances they would have been pushed back with a curt sort out your corruption first. TBH no idea what the Dutch are up to, when any number of diplomatic the EU looking into it comments would have sufficed. Pretty poor politics on their part.



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Esther Calm Valedictorian


    Belatedly watching Zelenskiys interview with Sky.

    He has aged 10 years in two weeks and looks like a man that has been crying his eyes out. Real empathy and suffering.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    I hope to fook Hersheys moves in.

    Serve the fookers right to be stuck with that muck.

    And yes I see Russians as the enemy and not this airy fairy modern attitude that it is just Putin and his connected ones.

    Just look at all the Z waving going on, Putin has support and still a hell of a lot of it.

    If this modern shyteology was adopted in WWII the Allies would never have bombed the living shyte out of Germany and help bring it to it's knees.

    It is this modern slant where we get the shyte about good Germans, well for every good German there were many multiples of bad Germans.

    Likewise with the Russians, there are some that are anti Putin anti war, but there are still a hell of a lot that aren't.

    Putin might be giving the orders, but who are doing the killing and no doubt raping on the ground.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,306 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭circadian


    On the 5th December 1994 the Budapest Memorandum was agreed and singed upon.


    The memorandum prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan.


    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Oh no Woody I agree 100%. The more pressure on Russia inside and outside Ukraine the better.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    They didn't, but after this war I strongly suspect they'll rush to reach those criteria. They've so much worldwide goodwill and attention and they need to capitalise on that.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,646 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Some people can look at twitter a tell the difference between the provenance of information coming from @reuters as opposed to @mynamereallyisnt sergeifromtherussianembassy

    I understand what you mean.

    If you agree with it, then its true.

    👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Or, as was briefly tried in the 1980s when the Soviets were trying to prove they could provide their people with everything to the same standard as the decadent capitalist westerners, Burger General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I have nothing against Russians (have a few Russian colleagues). Sadly a significant portion of the population still believes/backs Putin, and the only way they will get any sort of message is when they start to see the differences on the shelves, in their pockets, following their sports, seeing their lives change. Regardless, the world needs to defund Putin's war machine (which will come at some cost to the world)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Longing


    Sergey Galkin was born in 1987, he enlisted into the Russian army in 2013. After watching you can understand why morale is really poor within Russian units.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Twitter starting to step in against Russian propaganda




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo



    It is easier to subdue a country like Ukraine where you don't have mountainous regions that modern armour and indeed aircraft find difficult to operate in.

    What they do have is forests and you could revert back to WWII where you had partisans operating in Ukraine, Belarus, etc.

    Of course they will have lost some of those forests in the interveening years.

    As example the two high profile wars where the US ultimately had to give in were in Afghanistan (very mountainous harsh terrain and little infrastructure with very dedicated enemy) and Vietnam (mountainous, jungle with not much infrastructure and very very dedicated well led enemy).

    For all their technology and firepower it is hard to hit an enemy when you can't find them.

    The one area where the Ukrainians can cause Russia problems is in the cities much like what the Chechens did.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08



    Apologies for another tweet.

    Found on the Russian Seychelles embassy page.

    Russia and SA in trade talks apparently.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    There are a couple of differences in play. Those nations fled the Soviet nest soon after the Soviet union collapsed when this was "easier" to do. And they had fewer connections historically and culturally compared to Ukraine and hated Mother Russia far more. And unlike Ukraine they had no truck with Russian puppets and any that came along didn't last long. Before 2014 Russian propaganda and feelings on the ground held that Ukraine were their 'brothers' far more than those on your list. Since then Russian propaganda has slowly but surely whittled away at that notion in their people. Ukraine was far more like Belarus and Russians certainly thought it was until 2014. Even today they seem to have thought for some unfathomable reason that they'd get a bigger welcome on that basis.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Which is why I wrote this in that post: You can hopefully hold out until the attackers figure the juice isn't worth the squeeze and back off.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I suspect some will, but not all. An economically weak Russia is in all our interests and they've gone too far. Essentials like food and the like yeah, maybe MaccyDees in Red Square. but the oligarchs days are numbered. Unless they all decamp more to London....

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Guardian:

    "The CIA director, William Burns, was asked by the Senate intelligence committee about the possibility of Russian use of chemical weapons, possibly in a false-flag attack, Julian Borger writes.


    This is something, as all of you know very well, that is very much a part of Russia’s playbook.

    They’ve used those weapons against their own citizens. They’ve at least encouraged the use in Syria and elsewhere.

    So it’s something we take very seriously."


    Also if any Ukrainian military atrocity occurs (bound to happen in a war of this scale), expect Russia to immediately hone in on it



  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well there's another thing, without the oligarchs on the take you could end up with the new level of their economy settled not that far off where it is for 90% of people right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    the Ukraine Russian debacle has had some kind of escalation approximately every ten years since the USSR dissolved, 1994,2004,2014, now 2022 it was always going to become a tinderbox and an final solution was never reached, it must after this

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Anyone know what has been happening in Cyprus ?

    It is majorily involved in the money merry-go-round that involves Putin's wallet and the oligarchs/Putins inner circle.

    Have they shut down their operations in the country or did they chicken out like with the bank bailout ?

    Likewise those Swiss fookers are up to their necks in moving around their funds, and no small wonder his other half and the kids are hiding out there.

    I wonder has anyone thought about nabbing them ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    You know your deserve a smack in the mouth for continuing to call the bombing of hospitals 'fake news'.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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