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Easter Egg packaging and the environment...?

  • 09-03-2022 10:25PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭


    isle and isle of Easter eggs on offer in supermarkets.. how can this be happening, in the times we are in?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    ? Did you intend to link something?

    Most consumer grade easter eggs have moved to foil (easily recyclable) and cardboard (easily recyclable) for some years now. Its only the higher end ones that are drowning in plastic film, semi-hard plastic protective shells, plastic ribbons, plastic everything under the sun.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    still, recycling is the least preferable in the 'reduce, reuse, recycle' trifecta.

    i wonder were you to rank food items by the ratio of the weight of the packaging to the weight of the food, which would be the worst offenders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,371 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    The whole recyclable packaging thing went out the window with Covid. But tis all Ukraine & high fuel prices now so it will take a while to get back into vogue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    @L1011 no....

    so what - you think all that makes it ok???? I think NOT.

    @magicbastarder yup..

    its insane..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    What packaging do you suggest, then?

    The products aren't going to go away.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    if you're concerned about the impactof easter eggs and their packaging on the environment, it's quite possible that you're looking in the wrong place when talking about the packaging anyway.

    from a quick google, a 100g easter egg would be responsible for 500g of CO2 production, or the equivalent of driving 4 or 5km in a modern ICE car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    but there is no need for easter egg packaging to be so cardboard, plastic heavy;

    transport is not as easy to do without



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There is no plastic in most of them these days, as already explained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭KieferFan69


    #concern



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    easter eggs are light, brittle items. they can't be transported loose in a box anyway.

    the issue with easter eggs is the form of the egg itself rather than the packaging which follows on from that form.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    @L1011 i'm talking about the cardboard... "deforestation".. you might wanna wanna educate yourself



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you specifically mentioned plastic too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    in the current climate, one would have to ask, is there any need for them? no... "reduce, reuse, recycle".. so many turn a blind eye to the 1st 2 "r"s..

    crazy world... all the efforts being made to reduce damage.. yet look at this needless waste etc.. tis like filling a bucket with a hole in the bottom of it... totally futile



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,244 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Solid eggs would need less protection, i.e. less packaging. Or no eggs at all. The problem is the proliferation of cheap easter eggs as much as the packaging they are in. Where once you might have just bought them for your immediate family now they are so cheap people will buys tons of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    You very specifically mentioned plastic

    Now, do you have an actual suggestion of a alternative?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    This environmental concern about impact of Easter eggs packaging would be funny if it was not outright stupid. Have a look at how many different types of water you can find in supermarkets in 500ml bottles all year long. Water. As if Ireland was in the middle of Sahara.

    If you want to look cool regarding to sustainability and environmental issues you might wanna educate yourself before you start inventing issue which in grand scale of things is pretty much negligible.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you know it's possible to be concerned about both at the same time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    don't have the time or inclination to argue with all of the comments made..

    water in plastic bottle is obv also a culprit.. but people are aware of this and making efforts to curtail the use of em.. ie - using reusable water bottles etc..

    Just like a lot of us have switched to reusable coffee cups etc.. to reduce use to disposable cardboard cups..

    But in the same breath, no effort made to reduce further abuse/waste.. on the contrary.. seems to me that Easter Eggs have never been more plentyfull/cheaper.. was sickened in Tesco yday - isle and isles of them... twas shocking.. 3 for €3... ffs.. such rubbish/waste.. tonnes of cardboard...

    Alternatives? scrap them... boil and egg and paint it..

    It just makes no sense..

    Rant over..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Environmental damage of that plastic paint going in to the bin (or contaminating composting) is likely far worse than some recyclable materials used as packaging. And it isn't an actual alternative as I strongly suspect you simply don't have one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    Who says I have to give an alternative? I'm not a packaging or environmental expert - but I know enough to know that what I saw in Tesco yday was so wrong... on so many levels.. the waste.. sheer criminal.. but in any case I did - I said, boil eggs.. they don't need to be painted..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Plain boiled eggs are not a replacement for easter eggs, frankly that's the most ridiculous suggestion I've seen on here in 20 years.

    It appears you decided to have a rambling rant and can't actually even begin to provide a reasonable suggestion.

    There have been huge changes in reducing or eliminating plastic from this packaging in recent years.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    ah come on, you have to admit that the way easter eggs are produced is wasteful; let alone the packaging, the sheer volume they take up means you probably have artic lorries full of the things hauling (random figure) one tenth the weight of produce they could probably handle.

    the cheapo easter eggs weigh i think 120g - a bit over twice the weight of a 'normal' dairy milk bar, yet probably take up 20 or 30 times the volume.

    and worst of all, they're probably that oily cheap tasting chocolate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    @L1011 guess you just can't see the bigger picture eh.. can you - no.. or rather, the woods from the trees... (excuse the pun).. v sad

    Post edited by sporina on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,483 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    All Cadburys chocolate is the soy-based crud since Kraft took over.

    But there is absolutely no way that you're going to convince people to replace them with boiled eggs (painted with plastic paints or not); or indeed anything else. And if the pricing was brought back up to the premium it once held, people would expect the frills - literally - in the form of single use plastic ribbons, plastic protective shells, fake grass, all the other crap that goes in to "premium easter eggs"


    If seasonal chocolate is something worth targeting, selection boxes with their pointless plastic liners would be much higher up any list; or individually plastic wrapped ones like Roses/Heroes/Celebrations, or Valentines Day boxes with plastic flowers and ribbons on them, or indeed basically every other chocolate-based holiday product out there.

    But this still seems like someone has decided to have a rant without any real idea of what they were ranting about - as we see with the OPs confusion over plastic; ranting about the one of many chocolate holiday products that have, generally, gone from a hideous plastic mess to very recyclable packaging in a very short period of time.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,567 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    All Cadburys chocolate is the soy-based crud since Kraft took over.

    i'm currently tucking into a sharing bag of giant buttons, and they taste grand, and the ingredients list explicitly states milk as an ingredient - 23% is milk solids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    Took the above pic in Tesco the other day - 1 of 3 isles - and stacks of em all around the supermarket too..

    hence my emphasis on cardboard!!!!!

    shocking!!!!

    crazy world we live in!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    The (cheap) eggs are sold as loss leaders. The fact that there are customer limits on the number permitted to be purchased shouts that out, and so, any environmental concerns are magnified by the increase in the number of items purchased because of the low (below cost) price charged.

    By the way, the reduce, reuse, recycle, should include refuse (verb) - do not buy it in the first place, and then at the other end - if the waste cannot be recycled, then it ends up as refuse (noun) heading for land fill.

    Cardboard can at least be composted or burnt for energy recovery. Some of the cheap chocolate is unfit to be eaten by anyone with working taste buds, made as much of it is with soya and palm oil. Personally, I cannot eat any Cadbury chocolate since it was taken over by the American outfit that now controls it - it has a nasty aftertaste.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭sporina


    I sent an email and attached the above pic to Eamon Ryan/Dept of ECCC... got a reply from a secretary - twill be brought to their attention..

    Thats my bit done - no point me moaning without doing something proactive about it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    We all need a treat now and then! I WISH I could get to Tesco!

    I do have a pack of the small Cadbury eggs.... But just not the same. Please lighten up? These are hard times for folk.



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