Russia - threadbanned users in OP

To save face.putin will occupy nuclear power stations and some cities and odessa and head home. Only to use these strategic places to strengthen his armies and better strategies on how to gradually occupy other regions .in that way in his own warped mind. He thinks he will have left a legacy to be looked up to as a great leader by his people

How are you going to "guarantee" their security? they can't join NATO....so just give them another piece of paper with "we promise to look after you" - as they got when they were convinced to give up nukes? there is no guarantees here, but it will stop this war for now and probably for years.

Far-right being bitten by their love of Putin

Fair enough. We're on the same page. No offence intended

This seems to me to be the phase where we're becoming a bit desensitised to the fact that this invasion of Ukraine is happening. As fighting over there continues, the news remains largely the same. Russia are gaining ground, albeit slowly. Ukrainian counterattacks are hitting Russians harder than they probably expected before the invasion was launched. A hell of a lot of innocent people getting caught up in the whole business, with at least one dire humanitarian situation taking place in Mariupol. Round condemnation from Western countries.

All these situations ongoing and being poured over from every angle by news outlets. I don't want to say that people will get bored of what's happening, because that would sound callous - it was never meant to be 'entertaining', obviously, but mentally exhausted? Quite possibly. And that is where there is a particular danger for Zelenskyy on top of the imminent one he and his men are dealing with domestically. Support from the West wouldn't stop, but at some point will stagnate, given that leaders must still focus on their own affairs to some extent. Wise, therefore, for Zelenskyy to be pushing for as much aid as he can get right now where the window of international sympathy is at its widest.

You're just trolling now. No one is genuinely this thick.

Day 14 tomorrow and ukraine still controls the majority of Ukraine and to think some thought it would be all over in 3days

While the Ukraine army are doing very well, morale amongst the impacted populace must be reducing fast. It is tough going living without power, water, and comms in the modern world. Add food and fuel shortages to the mix and there is real suffering now as we near 2 weeks of war.

I think unfortunately Russia has dug a hole that it will be difficult for anyone to climb out of. I can't see Russia easily agreeing to the defensive security capabilities and associations that Ukraine would see as vital and I can't see Ukraine handing over territory that Russia might require.

Russia has broken an agreement it signed in 1994. Honouring that agreement should be seen as a minimum requirement.

You assume the correct position .

Bend over and kiss your backside good bye

Another map, Russia has a huge advantage in armor, aircraft and materials, however note the difference in manpower

You seem to take glee in that fact. Pretty revolting

Would you rather I copy other low level newly registered posters in calling for Ukraine to surrender.

Not going to happen

From the same source, another assessment of the potential upcoming 2 to 4 days concerning Kyiv and potential Russian moves on the city

View from a BBC economics editor

"Two G7 nations cannot ban the world’s second largest oil producer without tangible consequences.

Some of this is already factored in to the global price for crude oil, record pump petrol and particularly diesel prices.

President Biden was candid with the American people that there was a “price” for freedom.

PM Johnson hopes that the price can be minimised by phasing in a ban over the course of this year.

Even without formal diplomatic bans, an unofficial embargo is occurring in the markets. Shell was pilloried by Ukraine’s foreign minister for buying a cheap tanker of unwanted Russian crude, and has since apologised. Another tanker was turned away from Tranmere docks by unions refusing to offload the crude, and is now waiting near Orkney for a purchaser.

Though there are no sanctions on Russian energy in the EU plan, if followed, it will have a bigger overall impact on the energy market. And most of the West is trying to do the same thing at the same time.

But this is the economic weapon that will most hit the Kremlin. Oil revenues are much more important than gas revenues. There are also other options for the world’s supply of crude oil, stretching from Venezuela to the Gulf.

This will come with a price, paid by everyone. It was a price President Putin assumed Western populations would not want to pay. It is now happening."